We're in the southwest USA this weekend and the obligatory trip to In-and-Out is happening. Gotta say, I think I prefer even McDonalds over In-and-Out... I can't be alone thinking this? What does everyone think of In-and-Out?

@sethmlarson I only eat there with friends. I'd take Five Guys over it any day of the week (which is another place I'll never seek out)

When I visited Y Combinator a year or two before moving to Lawrence, I ate there because it was the first burger joint I found. I was underwhelmed. The ironically, skip forward a few years to the first DjangoCon US, and I went with a small group to seek out In-and-Out only to realize this was the same place I ate at years before. It was meh then too. 🤷

@webology @sethmlarson I wouldn't really order a burger these days anyway, but when I tried it 15-18 years ago I remember thinking it was nothing special.

I got the impression that maybe I ordered the right thing and you were supposed to order off the secret menu to get the thing everyone likes, but I don't think anything I saw on that menu would turn a mediocre burger into an amazing experience.

@pganssle @sethmlarson I hate the whole secret menu thing. I know that's a thing there and it's part of it, but every time I see someone spend a minute to customize an order it really grates my nerves. Removing something you don't like or can't eat is fine. Adding a bunch of extras seems like such a rude thing to do.

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@webology @sethmlarson I thought it was like an actual secret menu with a simple name like "animal style" or "double double" or something, so not anything where you are being weird and where it is hard to explain.

Still, I think in this case it is that people probably like the act of ordering off a secret menu that you have to know about more than they like the actual food you get when you do that.

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