“some of them were just useful idiots” - yeah well fuck them too

@ottocrat Some of the takes really stick in my mind. The guy in Wales who voted for Brexit to "put one up Emma Thompson". This is why you don't govern by referendum.

@pieist @ottocrat Ireland has referendums quite regularly. The difference is that there's an independent Referendum Commission which publishes draft legislation and sets out the consequences of votes for and against. Brexiters hadn't a clue what they voted for nor did many MPs. Irish govt offered David Cameron benefit of experience but offer was airily and confidently waved off.

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@samueljohnson @ottocrat It really was a perfect storm of inadequacy and abrogation, wasn't it. All the way down the line you can find massive instances of the government simply failing to do, what, frankly, any competent person would do. Remedying even one of those omissions or failures would almost certainly have made the difference.

@pieist @ottocrat Indeed. Including the complete failure to plan for a vote to leave and properly setting out the consequences, incl in particular for prospects for peace and stability in NI which has been treated utterly shamefully.

@samueljohnson @ottocrat I think if anything both of us are actually being a little generous by saying "failed", when in the majority of cases the accurate word is "refused".

@pieist @ottocrat Yes, that is more accurate. Not helped by a completely supine and suborned BBC which didn't inform the public or challenge bare-faced Brexiter liars.

@samueljohnson @ottocrat Yes -- I tried to err on the side of skepticism re BBC bias, but how do you get around, say, the fact that QT had Farage on 31 times, but has never, at any time, hosted a single pro-EU MEP? And never mind the audience plants, always called upon, who somehow live in 3 different cities...

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If a series whose plot was precisely that of Brexit had aired on BBC instead of the actual thing happening, the critics would have shredded it. Most particularly the Telegraph's, on the grounds of slandering the Conservatives with an unearned depiction of cowardice, venality and incompetence.

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