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@wikihow The most broken IMAP implementation ever. Tags are folders, Drafts aren't stored correctly. Google shitty IMAP implementation has been broken for over a decade.

@djsumdog It doesn't get much better than this. Labels as folders is *brilliant*, terrific design choice that allows you to actually use labels in your IMAP clients as well.

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@juliank @wikihow No, it's a terrible design because IMAP already has labels! Why not use actual IMAP labels?!

With folders, if you tag something with two labels, your IMAP client literally downloads the messages twice. It treats it as two entirely different messages.

@djsumdog I know the shortcomings, but it's still the best approach for the target audience.

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@djsumdog I think this got cut off, but labels as folders is brilliantly easy to discover, most people use them just like folders. It just works.

IMAP keywords meanwhile do not present a consistent workflow between clients, and are too dissimilar in workflow from Gmail in clients where they do exist.

So I agree with the model chosen by Gmail and Fastmail. It's technically nasty but it just works for most users, only a couple nerds go around downloading their emails over IMAP anyway

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Who cares about the way IMAP presents labels apart from people who download mail over IMAP?

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@robryk people who access email over imap @djsumdog @wikihow

@juliank Uh... what's the difference between accessing and downloading? You mean clients that literally have no local cache at all?

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