At which point along the line of "human brain", "simulation of human brain", "simulation of human brain executed by hand by humans" would you place the line?
What I was mostly disappointed by is silent assumptions, not the opinion.
@robryk I get that.
My line is at "human brain" for now. At least until I see a convincing simulation of human brain (yay, cellular automata!).
ML/AI is not a convincing simulation of a human (or any other) brain.
@rysiek I'm curious whether you think that it's potentially impossible, or whether existence of such a simulation matters for the question assuming that it's possible, or something else (that we'd learn something interesting while developing such a simulation that could provide evidence/arguments here?).
@robryk statements like "X is impossible" tend to be proven false given enough time. So, in the long run, it's *probably* possible.
@robryk I don't agree we can think of a human brain as a Chinese room. You can of course disagree with that.
But that's a philosophical debate that's been going on for a few hundreds of years (Searle wasn't first to advance a similar argument, too).