@rail that appears to be the case, yeah.

Our dishwashers can heat the water on their own (and do - they wash at temps hot enough to burn you so need to raise the temp beyond the input water anyway) but they don't in some cycles and it takes extra time.

Washing machines almost never have their own heating elements, though. They're just plumbed to both hot and cold water. But to be honest, for clothing almost nothing needs to be washed in hot water. I almost always do cold washes.

@TechConnectify @rail is this a side effect of the low voltage mains? Or some other reason? It never occurred to me (as a European), that appliances like dish washers and washing machines wouldn't have their own heating capabilities.

@quixoticgeek @rail possibly. We also have typically used top-loading machines which use much more water. Dozens of liters per fill (though old-school washers usually just have two fills total) so it's a lot of water to heat in the machine.

Bottom line though I hardly care to use hot water when washing clothes anyway. My new front-load washer has some sort of "steam clean" cycle so it may have a heating element but I've never looked into it because I truly just don't care.

@quixoticgeek @rail (and btw, a video on US washing machines is in the works. The old top-loaders are extremely simple and wash very well and very quickly. Cycle times are usually less than 30 minutes. But they use stupid amounts or water - basically filling the entire tub and your clothes become completely submerged)

@TechConnectify @rail this is all very foreign to me. I've only ever had front loaders, which are pretty water efficient. I also grew up in an area where we had a lot of droughts and water shortages were common. Do the top loaders do a spin cycle? I wash almost everything at 30°C. And with a 1400rpm spin, stuff comes out almost dry.