HOLY FUCK I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED THAT THE PHONE APP IN ANDROID 13 VIBRATES WHEN AN OUTGOING CALL CONNECTS

AN *OUTGOING* CALL

THERE IS NO WAY TO TURN THIS OFF EXCEPT TO DISABLE ALL VIBRATION ON YOUR PHONE

SO YOU MAKE A PHONE CALL, YOU PUT IT UP TO YOUR EAR, AND THEN THIS THING THAT YOU'VE PUT UP TO THE SIDE OF YOUR FACE VIBRATES INTENSELY. IT IS THE MOST DEEPLY UNPLEASANT, UNNECESSARY THING. I ALREADY KNEW I WAS MAKING A FUCKING PHONE CALL I PRESSED THE BUTTON

Please excuse the capital letters I am just SO FUCKING SICK of how Google is so deadset on taking what used to be a basically fine phone OS and finding constant new ways to punish me for using it. This has been going on for so many years now

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Actually this might be something specific to [carrier]'s branded phones and not Android. Seems a little unlikely, that would require [carrier] to have put any work into this at all

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I guess the intended use case is I press the call button, and then I wait for a vibration to indicate the other party has picked up, and *then* I put the phone up to my ear. And then I just don't hear the first three seconds of the call. Nobody ever says anything important in the opening seconds of a phone call, right?

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Okay so it turns out my workaround, even if I could train myself into doing it, doesn't work because there is no vibration if the call *fails* to connect. So for example if you make a phone call to a disconnected number, and a voice comes on the line and says "the call could not be completed as dialed" etc, that doesn't count as a connection, therefore there is no vibration, therefore I do not hear it because I'm holding the phone away from my ear so it doesn't loudly vibrate against my head.

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OK! So talking to some people this appears to not be Android 13 itself. Apparently depending on phone vendor this vibrate-on-outgoing-call feature is either (1) present (2) absent (3) present, but there is a setting to turn it off. And I rolled the unlucky 1. So it appears for once this was not Google's fault, except to the extent they made an OS where they use licensing to strictly maintain control over app store DRM but leave the user at the mercy of the carrier/vendor on every other issue

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How was I supposed to anticipate buying a $35 cell phone would come with downsides!!!

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This is hell

I cannot make my new Android phone NOT vibrate on an outgoing call and I cannot train myself to NOT put a phone up to my ear after making a phone call

So basically every time I make a phone call (1-3x wk at random intervals) my cell phone is going to kick me in the side of the head

I don't know how much of this is psychosomatic but it feels bad for *hours*

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Replacing the Phone app with "Simple Dialer" from F-Droid did not make the vibration on call connection stop

Setting `adb.exe shell cmd appops set com.android.phone VIBRATE` to "ignore" did not help. Nor did setting it to "Deny". Nor did doing same for whatever com.mediatek.op07.phone is

Somehow [phone carrier] has programmed "the phone WILL vibrate after you press it against the side of your head" into the OS at a deep, untouchable level.

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I only need this phone to stay usable until my real phone gets back from repair

Maybe I just disable all vibration on the entire device and don't get any notifications or phone calls for the next week! Maybe that's the solution! :(

My mind forever boggles at how people can create computers/software and never think about the experience they are gifting upon the victim/customer. I understand how this happens, it's because corporations are systems designed to stop people thinking, but

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*Deep breath* okay. Okay! After a bunch of fiddling I have discovered that, inexplicably, disabling "Touch Haptics" causes the vibrate-on-phonecall-connection to stop without having to disable vibration completely. That makes *no sense*, and it sucks because the touch haptics are a critical part of what makes Android feel good to use despite the removal of physical buttons, but it means I can continue to use my phone as an alarm clock so it's "good enough".

…I am still very angry at [carrier].

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@mcc

That _is_ really surprising.

Ah, and you did try replacing the dialer to no effect already. :/

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