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@freemo
Actually they'll look like all of us who contracted those lethal killers back when they were normal childhood diseases. IOW, every boomer alive today.
@sda Well no because a large chunk of those people died, the ones alive today just happen to be the survivors. Depending on the disease thats only if their lucky
@freemo Propaganda is such an amazing tool. Almost everyone I knew had mumps, measles and chicken pox. Not a single kid in my school of several hundred died.
Such a "large chunk" that I couldn't count them.
@sda I know several people who have horrible measles and chicken pox scars. I myself as someone who was born before Chicken Pox vaccine had chicken pox, it wasnt too bad, but now as an adult it means I have to suffer through excruciating agony and pain as I get the shingles (a result of having chicken pox as a kid).
It isnt just about death, you cherry [icked a few diseases that dont usually end in death but DO usually result in a good deal of suffering. There are other diseases which are far FAR worse, but hey if your cherry picking we can just ignore those right?
@freemo The odds of dying go down as you get older. My simple placebo brain intentionally knows the same is true of shingles. Actually, it doesn't even acknowledge any possibility that shingles could manifest in this immuno supercharged body.
Yes, people die without vaccines, but moreso in 1st world nations. I wonder why the death rate from measles is an order of magnitude higher the States than say, the Ukraine.
@sda Thats the problem with relying on your "simple placebo brain" rather than actual science. It usually means your wrong.
Your chance of having shingles increases with age, doesnt decrease. Moreover the older you are the more likly you are to die from it because you are weaker.
The following is a quote direct fromt he CDC along with the statistics that show, rather clearly, that your chance of contracting and dieing from it go up with age not down as you suggest:
"Your risk of getting shingles increases as you get older." -- CDC
@freemo Perhaps I should have said:
Only 1 out of 3 people who have had chicken pox will ever get shingles. My immuno supercharged body and simple placebo brain place me in the 2 out of 3 category. Is believing in the odds more "scientific?"
@sda I mean thats fine if you think you will be one of the lucky ones. Still not a reasonable argument for anyone else to follow though.
@freemo I'm wondering if you've ever taken either of the shingles vaccines.
@sda it is only given to people 60 and older.
@freemo Pretty sure it's 50 and older for the newer one.
@sda Also lets not forget if you get chickenpox as an adult, rather than as a kid, there is a good chance it will steralize you and you cant have kids. Plenty of good reasons to vaccinate and almost no good reasons not to.
@sda The odds of you getting it go up as you get older. Most people get it in their old age which is also when it is most crippling and can result in some pretty nasty disabilities if you are unlucky enough (nerve damage).
The original meme is valid, a LOT of people die without vaccines, particularly if they travel or live in a society where that is common.