@vriska I remember reading, I think it was a new york times article, about a guy who went sea hunting regularly. One time he found a giant octopus and went after it, and finally the only way he could kill it was by dragging it out of the water. He did that and was up on the beach in a death grip on the thing fighting for its life, and people on the beach surrounded him and got extremely upset, and it ended with people trying to ban, uh, fighting an octopus