@dave oh yeah, that's fake
Declaring a major event that you haven't investigated, that has tons of supporting evidence, but that might force you to acknowledge that the Russians aren't the good guys here, is fake, just like that...come on dude, that's poast-tier.
@dave there's not "tons of supporting evidence" and investigations into it were denied. the mayor of bucha when discussing russia leaving never even bothered to mention such a massacre.. because it didn't happen, any the video comes from ukranian national police with no other witnesses. it's a hoax. sorry that you easily fall for war propaganda.
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/at-unsc-russia-asks-why-moscows-request-for-meeting-was-rejected-uk-responds-articleshow.html
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-crisis/at-unsc-russia-asks-why-moscows-request-for-meeting-was-rejected-uk-responds-articleshow.html
> investigations were denied
So you're saying you can't find tons of press footage of war reporters walking around and filming/photographing the dead bodies? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
So you're saying you can't find tons of press footage of war reporters walking around and filming/photographing the dead bodies? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
@dave what I've seen is *ukranian national police* doing such things. here's is scott ritter on it, former USMC intelligence officer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZ0nWt3WKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZ0nWt3WKU
I assumed this guy was a Russia apologist of some kind, but I didn't realize he worked for Russian state media, lol.
He's not dim, he's just young and hotheaded and is having his views openly challenged.
Which street was this filmed on?
I question plenty else. But what you've presented is photos of two dead guys (out of the ~1000 people that died) lying in the street, that appear to have armbands on.
Even if I grant everything that you are asserting with these photos (that these video stills are from Bucha in the aftermath of the occupation, and that they show 2 people with pro-Russia armbands on), that would still be easily explained by the fog of war. It doesn't disprove that many other bodies were sighted and mass graves were being dug while the city was under Russian occupation.
Even if I grant everything that you are asserting with these photos (that these video stills are from Bucha in the aftermath of the occupation, and that they show 2 people with pro-Russia armbands on), that would still be easily explained by the fog of war. It doesn't disprove that many other bodies were sighted and mass graves were being dug while the city was under Russian occupation.
You are unironically posting propaganda from a Russian state media official with an insane theory that contradicts basic facts about the timeline and are now implying we're the gullible ones here. You've also pivoted from "Ukraine killed them" to "nobody killed them".
Good news is that at least you don't need to hit the gym today what with all this goalpost-moving you've been doing.
Good news is that at least you don't need to hit the gym today what with all this goalpost-moving you've been doing.
@dave @cereal you are the two referencing wikipedia. here's a ukranian commander telling his solder's to kill non-blue armbands (aka civilians)
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/RWApodcast/status/1510635133627514881#m
>Lat night, Sergey "Boatsman" Korotkikh, infamous Neo-Nazi & member of Azov, posted a video titled "The BOATSMAN BOYS in Bucha". At the 6 second mark you can clearly hear the dialogue:
>"There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot them?"
>"Fuck yeah"
https://nitter.pussthecat.org/RWApodcast/status/1510635133627514881#m
>Lat night, Sergey "Boatsman" Korotkikh, infamous Neo-Nazi & member of Azov, posted a video titled "The BOATSMAN BOYS in Bucha". At the 6 second mark you can clearly hear the dialogue:
>"There are guys without blue armbands, can I shoot them?"
>"Fuck yeah"
If something was posted on April 3rd referencing something posted "Last night", what date was the thing referenced posted?
Like, come on dude, they are literally walking past a burnt-out AFV of some kind. These comments were clearly made in the aftermath, and it even seems like you haven't even absorbed "these bodies and mass graves started appearing in March, when the city was under Russian control" into your noggin yet. At least I think you haven't, since you're posting a video that was recorded after the city was retaken and presenting it like it's supposed to be evidence of who killed who in that massacre.
Also, your first source being an RT guy and your 2nd source being fucking Russians With Attitude is really something. Strong "independent thinker" energy with your choice of sources.
Russians With Attitude at least you don't know what their affiliation is, but they are not at all reliable either, and having it pointed out to you that you are uncritically presenting as the truth what a Russian state media reporter is claiming should give you pause.
Like, come on dude, they are literally walking past a burnt-out AFV of some kind. These comments were clearly made in the aftermath, and it even seems like you haven't even absorbed "these bodies and mass graves started appearing in March, when the city was under Russian control" into your noggin yet. At least I think you haven't, since you're posting a video that was recorded after the city was retaken and presenting it like it's supposed to be evidence of who killed who in that massacre.
Also, your first source being an RT guy and your 2nd source being fucking Russians With Attitude is really something. Strong "independent thinker" energy with your choice of sources.
Russians With Attitude at least you don't know what their affiliation is, but they are not at all reliable either, and having it pointed out to you that you are uncritically presenting as the truth what a Russian state media reporter is claiming should give you pause.
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@dave @e @cereal https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/04/questions-abound-about-bucha-massacre/
the main point I've heard is that the bodies were recent, not bloated as one would expect to them to be after several days of occupation
with little else to go on, the time line doesn't add up
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