listening to Orban interviews, the dude makes sense.
@szescstopni in arguing for peace talks with Putin rather than a constant escalation that kills more people in Ukraine.

@kaia Peace talks with those who constantly escalate oppression? I'm thinking of all pacts that Russia broke.

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Any peace with Russia isn't sustainable — Putin can't offer economic prosperity, the only way Russia can exist with him keeping his position is in the permanent state of war, or as besieged fortress at least. Orbahn knows this, but there are a lots of those who love "just stop shooting" stance and think that this is what stops wars — so he keeps selling this, this makes him look more significant than he is.

@m0xee @kaia Right. The think of the children fallacy is a powerful tool, almost never used for good.

@kaia @szescstopni the question would be why there is a war in ukraine at all? Why are russian troops killing people in a land that has not attacked russia? If you listen closely to putin, there currently will be no peace where ukraine does not lose territory to russia, so what would be your solution?

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