Online age verification isn't the same as a quick ID flash: it's surveillance. These systems collect your data and undermine your ability to anonymously access and discuss sensitive topics online. eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/why-

@eff Seems we could use a system where I own my data, and I allow a one-time query of my data. They can ask my data if I am old enough, and that's it. They otherwise do not need my data, meaning they do not store my data, that would be forbidden. No company really needs to store the data they have on their customers, when they could instead just ask my self-owned data when then need a small piece of my data, rather than think they get to own my data all the damn time.

This sounds a fair bit like Solid. It's never really taken off, and Solid alone wouldn't be able to prevent "unauthorized" data retention (i.e. theft) by just copying what's given to somewhere out-of-band, but if it or another standard like it were ever adopted by some group/government with the authority to actually enforce that the corporations played fair, I feel like it would solve a lot of the permissions and data-ownership issues people have. It's definitely got all the right knobs around fine-grained sharing and revocation.

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@sam @eff Solid seems very promising, but it's something I haven't used yet. Thanks for pointing it out!

You're welcome! The more exposure it gets, the better in my opinion. I don't have much practical experience with Solid, but the principles behind it are quite nice and what I have used makes it seem like the protocol is well-constructed, it's just the tooling that could use a bit of improvement.

One of my stalled projects is effectively wrapping an ActivityPub feed around a Solid pod for a more digital-garden approach to Fedi. It stalled both because those aren't necessarily the easiest standards to reconcile in the finer details, and because #snac wound up filling most of the use cases I was wanting it for, but I do still want to get back to it at some point to allow better long-form essays, even beyond the control and flexibility that Solid would allow.

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The people are sort of porting their concepts over to as . It rebases an already-implemented idea on a standard. They are also doing something similar with their DID implementation, .
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