The Israel-Palestine situation is a clusterfuck. I don't have any deep insights to add to what more knowledgeable people are saying. I don't like that simply by being American I feel complicit, however diffusely, in either side murdering people.
BUT LET ME SAY THIS. If we plunge the U.S. into Russian-style autocracy because people decide to lay of decades of intractable violence squarely on #Biden ... How will #Trump treat #Gaza ? He would let #Netanyahu erase Palestine, full stop.
@HumanServitor
This is very self serving: first of all because the impulses that elected Trump are much older than the current invasion, and Biden was elected to fight them. In the three years since he's largely failed at beating back Trumpism, and that colossal failure has nothing to do with the current conflict.
Secondly, Biden is the one willfully ignoring desperate pleas for some restraint: I can see evidence for at most one meeting with pro-palestinian leaders, while he personally attended a war cabinet meeting with Bibi and has receive many pro-Israel delegates. Faced with leadership that ignores its most salient desire, the voter is perfectly justified in falling back to the blunt force of the ballot box.
Thirdly, while it is clear that Trump would be much worse for America's influence in the world, it is not self evident that his administration would be worse for Palestine. Simply put, Trump is such a crude geopolitical actor that he would most likely provide much less political cover than Biden is currently doing (even Germany would be hard pressed to ignore IDF atrocities if it puts them in Trumps camp). So a Trump presidency would lead to an increased pressure on Bibi, which is much more beneficial than whatever small restrictions on material support that Biden currently enforces.
Self-serving? Well, yes, in the sense that I wish for what is best for both the U.S. and Palestine (and Israel), not ONLY what is best for Palestine.
Are you aarguing from a perspectivel of total extinguishment of the self? ...
I disagree re: Trump-Netanyahu. Full bore under Trump, Netanyahu would do his work before any international response could take effect. (The same argument being made about Biden now.)
@HumanServitor
The entire invasion is a very hasty affair and military action is not free or frictionless, so there are physical limits to what can be achieved.
The IDF has been, and is, operating very close to the maximum it could plausibly do, already their air force and artillery is bombing so intensely that even with super sloppy computer generation they run out of targets.
There simply is very little space for escalating their brutality unless you think Biden is the only thing holding them back from open genocide. Thus the case for Trump being much worse is simply not as strong as you make it out.
@tobychev
I do more or less think Biden is preventing open genocide.
Not perhaps in a direct sense, like the instant that changes Netanyahu kills everyone. But I think it would result in a very rapid escalation of internal Israeli pressures that would put Netanyahu in that spot regardless, and he's hardly unwilling.
But I admit that's based on my very, very shallow understanding of the sum of the competing public opinions in Israel.