@Remittancegirl @Eetschrijver

I think the sobering thought of being invaded by Russia & having a NATO without #America, is finally making people wake up. For far too long, #Europe has been too comfortable without realising the period between WW2 & the invasion of Ukraine was its longest period of peace in 2000 years, if you discount the war in the #Balkans.

I think moving away from its reliance on #Russian oil & gas, & #America's military might for security, could be the making of Europe.

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Meh, we would beat Russia back from Ukraine if we really sent troops, it just wouldn't be painless.

The full counter invasion all the way to Moscow is of course a much more challenging prospect, probably not possible without going to full war economies and total mobilization if the Americans don't join. But also that is obviously a much different thing from merely deterring Russia from invading the EU propper.

The big problem with the US dropping out of NATO is a loss of capability to invade distant countries beyond the EU border, and of course that the US would consider strikes on EU territory.
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