I love mastodon of course but some posts just bring out all its worst features. Like, i wish people could see other people’s replies. It is a bit tiresome to get the same (pertinent, of course) response again and again and afain.
Noted: people on here really really do not like AI images. I don’t either. But it’s interesting to note just how much take down you get for accidentally posting one. More emotional reaction than to anything else I do here
@pvonhellermannn Yes! @jonny has actually implemented a solution to #FetchAllReplies on our server and it works very well. We're waiting for it to be added to the main mastodon code..
As for the strong reject of genAI images, I think it's great, we want to keep this platform as authentic as possible, unlike Bluesky who is already inundated by fake AI pics. People could probably be more polite about it though.
@elduvelle @pvonhellermannn agreed the many-same-replies problem is exhausting, particularly when you happen across one of the red line fedi issue like generative AI without context/without expectation/etc. experiences like yours are exactly why fetch all replies is so necessary
the PR for reference: https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/32615
@jonny @elduvelle @pvonhellermannn agree #fetchallreplies will be a useful tool to reduce duplication and let you see a more representative set of responses.
However to what extent does it surface significantly more duplicate replies ?
Surely much of the problem is many people's bad etiquette in not reading the replies that they can see before dashing off a response?
If there are lots of obvious duplicates the likelihood is that there will be enough in the replies they do see to refrain from me-tooing if they were so minded.
@marjolica @jonny @pvonhellermannn
I believe the amount of replies one is missing currently probably depends on the size of the server you're on. For me, on our small server, once @jonny added #FetchAllReplies I saw a huge increase in visible replies, I'd say I was only seeing 10-20% of the replies before that. I was also able to see (& report) many spam replies. I personally try to scroll through the replies before answering and I think enough people here do it that it would be a game-changer to have FetchAllReplies implemented in the Main Mastodon code.
On top of this duplicate problem, it should also help solving a lot of the hidden harassment problem that people might experience here (someone might complain about posts that nobody else can see, leading to other people questioning the legitimacy of the complaints, making the problem worse).
@elduvelle
Yes, the loss of comments can be very severe, see this example of where 77 comments become 3.
https://biologists.social/@steveroyle/113506319729385540
@marjolica @jonny @pvonhellermannn
