@waltercool @alex I think the problem comes from how to handle the people who themselves are not violent but are there specifically to give cover to the people who are violent

@valleyforge @alex Well, at Europe that's solved, but indeed this is a common problem at Americas, as all constitutions are based on individualism (by principle this is a complex matter to us).

At Europe (Germany/Austria at least) is known any violent manifestation is considered illegal, and even peaceful people who join them are considered part of the riot under illegal association.

@waltercool @alex lol that's exactly what people are mad about here

@valleyforge @waltercool @alex They (activists) want those people to be arrested, preferably violently. I’m not condoning police violence, but they act in a way specifically meant to trigger it for optics, and the media is ready to play their part. Read this: https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1287688790400614400 They quite literally teach this to new protesters. It’s all theater to manipulate the general public with the MSM’s help. There’s something fundamentally dishonest about that sort of behavior IMO.

@valleyforge @alex @waltercool Stuff like this.

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@lucky @alex @valleyforge I doubt. They must condemn violence in order to not classify as terrorist groups.

Understanding terrorism as "causing terror to achieve political goals".

Now, I'm sure most average ppl are against racism and police brutality, so, what ppl at Philadelphia and Portland are trying to do?

Peaceful protests are OK and happens everywhere, but Portland and Philadelphia are known famous for their violence, both sides

@waltercool @alex @valleyforge They don’t say to use violence, but to try to provoke it as much as possible. Many seem to use the “small violent group hidden within the crowd” method to achieve this. If it was just sit ins, fewer people would view them negatively, assuming their demands aren’t completely insane (reducing funding to police to pay for alternative services = sane, abolish police = insane). Unfortunately the demands seem to depend on which activist is being interviewed.