"By banning some of us, Musk is sending a message to everyone else: Comply with the dictator or lose access. Twitter has become a virtual simulation of authoritarian rule."

"But Musk didn’t build Twitter. We, collectively, turned the bird app into a consequential power. If it remains under the control of a man who sees journalists as enemies, we have a moral responsibility to fly the coop."
--@gilduran on getting banned from #twitter.
sfchronicle.com/opinion/openfo

@georgelakoff @gilduran "Honestly, I was surprised Twitter would go after a local journalist with fewer than 7,500 followers."

That's really the key phrase.

said journalists have to abide by the site's rules too, that they aren't special and somehow above the rules.

This journalist was surprised by that.

And it pretty much proves the point Musk was making about .

I'm no fan of Musk, but I'm even less excited about journalists with inflated senses of themselves.

That's a great illustration of how journalists have lost so much credibility with the public lately, and they don't seem to get that.

@volkris

It's still important to say that the rule was arbitrarily created by musk and also enforced arbitrarily. Then he backed off on the bans as quickly as he could after pushback. Shortly after, we discovered the whole episode that supposedly triggered Musk was bullshit.

I'm afraid i don't find this whole "they need follow the rules" thing compelling in the least..

@georgelakoff @gilduran

@michaelcoyote @georgelakoff @gilduran Since I really don't care about or , meh, I don't think it's that important to say anything about the rules on that site. It's a garbage site and not really worth attention.

I DO care about the state of , though, and I really wish journalists had more awareness about the reasons they've lost so much credibility in recent generations.

I don't know how many times I've heard panel discussions among journalists lamenting that the public just doesn't trust them anymore, and they don't know why.

This. This is why.

@volkris @michaelcoyote @georgelakoff @gilduran nah. Journalists have lost public trust because their media organizations are now fully controlled either by corporations directly or by politicians controlled by corporations in the case of public broadcasters .

@Azih

We don't need such conspiracy theories to explain this.

We can hear from journalists themselves, even ones I know personally talking in private, that they have these backwards attitudes that are reflected in their engagement with the public.

No, these people are making their own choices. We shouldn't let them off the hook by imagining sinister overlords.

@Azih

But that is suggesting causality in correlation.

You're seeing journalists as mere autonomatons when in reality individual reporters will be rebelliously anti authoritarian to a fault.

These are human beings choosing to act in ways that turn off the public, acting in ways that they should probably knock off, and you can't pretend that's not a thing merely by looking at the financial situation of their employers.

@volkris anti authoritarian to a fault is a claim on your part that I don't think there's any support for. My proof to the contrary is that journalists toe their owners corporate line. And my theory as to why that is is that those who would bite the hand that feeds them have gotten fired long ago

@Azih

Do you have many examples of journalists towing their owners' corporate lines?

Because the journalists I know in person are annoyingly loud about not doing that, and it seems like there are constant stories about journalists fighting their corporate owners, demanding everything from pay raises through more newsroom independence.

So what evidence do you really have to support your claims here? Because I really don't see it, AND I personally see the opposite really frequently.

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@Azih Did you notice how that link is also leaping from correlation to causation?

@volkris Look, at least I have a correlation. Plus following the money is a necessary critical avenue to pursue and I do not know why you're trying to debunk it.

Corporate greed is causing major problems in the world, corporate media can't report honestly on it, they lose trust from the public. It's a pretty solid hypothesis which is the most you're going to get on social media.

I mean I even cited a source which is one more citation then you've provided.

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