I wish the people who had a problem with the term "WOKE" would learn what the word means instead of trying to define it for black folks. Ditto for those same maga douchebags who have a problem with the definition of ANTI fascists (antifa). Hell, after Rush Limbaugh turned the word "Liberal" into such a dirty word, even liberals stopped calling themselves liberals and adopted "progressive". My enemies won't define me. PROUD liberal and WOKE as fuck.
I think it's more complicated than you are realizing.
For example, I don't think liberal is a dirty word and I don't really give a shit what Rush Limbaugh said, but I differ from progressive people because I disagree with them and how authoritarian they tend to be.
Progressive isn't the new word for liberal. Progressive is different, in my estimation, and as a strong liberal I sure wish progressive people WERE liberal.
I feel like the progressive movement left liberals like me behind.
@volkris I don't think it's complicated. I'm old enough to remember when republicans used to call us "bleeding heart liberals". As if caring for the well being of others was a terrible thing. Some democrats heard that and didn't want to feel weak and fled to the "Progressive" moniker. And, if you have noticed, the progressive crowd tends to be a LOT louder to prove themselves to republicans how tough they are. I'd rather speak softly and carry, not a big stick, but the whole fucking tree.
Well, just to illustrate that it seems more complicated that you are giving credit for, I AM one of those bleeding heart liberals, and I'm constantly sad that progressives have seemed to break from that, to go in a direction that strikes me as far more related to the right than my own stance.
So I guess great? Go be loud? Prove whatever you need to prove? But that's part of what to me separates progressives from my identification as a liberal, part of why I don't find myself to be an ally with the progressive cause.
I'm busy looking for solutions due to my bleeding heart. Y'all do y'all, but this is why there seems to be a serious rift between liberals and progressives.
