Can I look up a total list of where I'm banned? No ban notification. https://lemmy.ml/post/6512432
@Sprite I don't think this is really possible in a distributed system like Fediverse since there isn't a centralized list of bans.
You'd have to go to every instance one by one asking if you're on their ban list, and since that list of instances is huge and changing by the day it's just not practical under the design of this system.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to make it so system automatically sends users notifications if they were banned or if their posts were removed? Currently moderation is really pointless since the offender doesn’t even know they did something wrong.
@Sprite I could imagine two schools of thought on that.
(and I'm not saying one is right or not)
The other side is I imagine a ban represents an intention to disconnect, including the connection that would be required to let the person know they're banned.
That also avoids drama that a misbehaving user might stir up in response to the ban.
Technically, in this distributed system, banning is more about ignoring someone. Instances can't trust each other, so by keeping banning on the receiver side instead of the sender side, the ban-er has more control over the banning.
Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure MY users on MY instance get the experience they want, regardless of what any other instance does.
It all comes down to the distributed structure here.
Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure MY users on MY instance get the experience they want
If that were true, we wouldn’t be having so much user migration. So far moderation on fediverse lacks any transparency and frequently appears to be power tripping.
Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure people see what I, the moderator or admin, wish to be the only thing visible to them.
Otherwise, block function exists.
@Sprite oh sure, I was talking in terms of ideals.
In theory, by design, moderation is about me making sure my users get the experiences they want.
But yep, in reality that often translates to power tripping and admins putting their personal views first.
I think we're in agreement on this. It's something I criticize the design of Fediverse over, but it was design decision from long ago, and nobody asked me :)
But yeah, because blocking is done on the receiving instance side it wasn't necessary to involve the sending instance, and a feature to unnecessarily involve the banned person would be controversial.
