There are a legion of wealthy people and large corporations dedicated to keep our economy inefficient.
The resources are out there, and could be available. These people don't want the economy working well, and the Government is a fairly weak force in taking action against them.
Big oil no longer cares about the climate. "Oh it's a lost cause so we might was well make as much as we can!".
There are more houses than homeless people.
Hyper-efficient inventions like engines and energy were crushed at the starting gate. Same thing with big medical discoveries.
Readily available social services could improve peoples health, living conditions and income, making them more productive at work as well.
We are trained to accept and be grateful for that extra slice of bread on our plate, when there is a storehouse of top grade food right across the street... locked away and available for only the wealthy.
@the_Effekt this kind of conspiracy theory story just never really makes any sense.
If efficient options were out there, then the big evil corporations could make more profit by engaging the more efficient options.
Why would they give up earnings?
No, Occam's razor tells us that it's not really what's happening, the efficiencies are overstated or non-existent.
And a whole bunch of people are writing stories to get clicks because they get money from misleading the public about this sort of thing.
@volkris @the_Effekt I agree with you about the premise, as stated in the first sentence.
I also agree with the claim of endemic inefficiencies being downplayed, until they become profitable to address.
The OP is correct that an entrenched profit system will often work against their own interests, to preserve a proven model, rather than move to a more efficient model, until it, too, supports equal profits, in the same way.
"If efficient options were out there, then the big evil corporations could make more profit by engaging the more efficient options."
Logically, you and I would agree about this statement. In practice, fear of change still rules the day.
@putnamca I just don't believe that fear overcomes the prophet motive like that on the whole.
@volkris @the_Effekt Did you mean to spell prophet like that? Or, was that a joke that I was supposed to understand?
Also, what you can or can't believe isn't at issue. Not to be a dick.
@putnamca you are right on both counts
I'm doing voice dictation at the moment and the AI chose the wrong spelling.
And yes, absolutely, what I can or can't believe isn't really the issue, but if you would like to convince someone like me, this is the barrier you have to overcome. And if you don't, that's all right too.
Rich people turning their backs on money? That seems like a stretch. So how do you make your position make sense given that, assuming you care to?
@putnamca but what you're saying is just not factually correct.
If I go into the shop tomorrow and I'm facing the decision of using a hunk of steel versus a hunk of aluminum to make a part I'm not going to consult Congress to decide which is more efficient.
I should probably consider the efficiency of the two different options, the relative costs of the two materials, the difficulty of machining the two, all of those factors that go into efficiency.
Congress didn't invent that kind of difference. Congress doesn't control it.
And the inefficiency isn't locked in as the costs of the two different materials very from week to week.
But, if my workplace would like to have a profit, they'll probably want me to go ahead and use the less costly option. Because inefficiency eats away at profit.
So I think you're really focusing on this top down view of the world that isn't very realistic on a day-to-day basis.
@volkris @the_Effekt You ARE consulting Congress.
The quality of the aluminum that you are privileged enough to be examining (since you are are a 'profiteer') MEETS MINIMUM STANDARDS AS PRESCRIBED BY CONGRESS. So, then, which ever one you pick, will be far less likely to be flawed, and far less likely to kill a human, in the future.
A death for which you may be held liable.
Where is your disconnect that government is in your life, always, and for good reasons, otherwise, you may have died, as a baby?
Get over yourself, and understand that all government is"communist" for very good reason, and America is Capitalist, also for good reason, and that we have to weigh these against each other.
@putnamca I hate to tell you, but we don't actually consult Congress over the minimum standards for aluminum.
That's just not how our supply chain works.
We can use aluminum from the guy down the street smelting it from Coke cans in his backyard or even right out of ore if we want. The regulations don't really impact at that level.
Not to mention, I think most standards come from executive branch regulatory action, not Congress itself.
It sounds like you're trying really hard to fit reality into some model you have in mind, but it just doesn't really work that way.
@volkris @the_Effekt ANd, in making that decision, you would demonstrate your abject moral deficiencies...this isn't hard, man.
Make more decisions that potentially kill human beings, because you "lovva da monies", and you are a criminal.
This is a direct callback, to my claim that you are consulting Congress, always.
They are called laws. You seem to not want to, or support the idea that you don't have to, follow them, as long as profit can be demonstrated.
Profit is not evidence of a good thing. It's often evidence of really bad things.
Please cite the law that we are breaking by using the aluminum that comes from the guy down the street.
@volkris @the_Effekt First of all, if you need me to cite the laws your business is supposed to be operating, then your business is already in violation, and that's not my responsibility.
Secondly, I would like to advertise your business, for free...
FREE ADVERTISING. Who wouldn't want that.
What business do you work for?
Again...free advertising...let us know what your aluminum company-buying business is called.
FREE. The most technically correct Capitalist efficiency.
Go ahead...
@volkris @the_Effekt Look, douche, I was actually answering your questions, and was going to give you quotes, and shit.
You don't fucking come at me with, "I repeat, do the thing."
Dickish, af.
Here's the link:
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R47294
Specifically is mentioned how buying your aluminum from "down the street" is a National Security issue.
Do your own fucking research, you tool.
I tried, with you.
@putnamca so I noticed that you are still not citing a specific law or regulation
And I mean that my trying to meet you more than halfway, allowing regulations over and above the USC to prove your claim.
So I guess come back when you have a law to cite.
I would be very interested in knowing what laws machine shops across the country are violating on a daily basis.
I don't know if I've asked two or three times, but either way, that you haven't cited a law really just makes me think that maybe there is none, and we are all in the clear.
@volkris @the_Effekt "Not to mention, I think most standards come from executive branch regulatory action, not Congress itself."
I see that we addressed what you "believe", as being irrelevant, but now we have to address what you "think".
Hmm...also, irrelevant.
Funny, how that works.
@volkris @the_Effekt Rich people who understand the rules of the game, as given to them by a government, are free to play the game. That's kind of the Capitalist idea of "freedom" that we have defined.
I'm not sure if an NFL coach who gave his team handguns and semi-automatic weapons, before sending them on the field would have their job, the following season.
(I'm also not sure they would be fired. Seriously.)
Our Congress is currently operating in these extremes, and we're all watching how that's working out, for them...
The argument is about how inefficiencies are locked in, and they are. Period.
"WHY?" they are locked in is way more complex...not a full-blown "conspiracy", but certainly a "conspiracy" against "progressive" ideas, thus "conservatism".
I hope I've adequately answered your questions.