@StarkRG the UN resolution was only symbolic, though. It carried no real weight.

So this was a symbolic veto of a symbolic resolution, just a game.

There was and is no real ceasefire bid on the table, and we shouldn't buy into the posturing of these politicians.

@volkris For the most part, sure, but the US just symbolically gave everyone the middle finger and said killing thousands of civilians is perfectly acceptable.

@StarkRG That's a gross misrepresentation of what happened in this political process, and it's really not helpful, since anybody familiar with the resolution actually on the table isn't going to be swayed by that sort of allegation.

No, the US didn't say that.
If we actually want to push for solutions to real international problems, it's not helpful to be so unrealistic about what's actually happening in the world.

@volkris If your going to claim is a misrepresentation, then you really need to back that up with what you think it actually is, otherwise you just come off as a contrarian, denying what others have observed.

@StarkRG

Sure thing. We can go right to the UN's own description of the day's events to see that it wasn't as you described.

Here's their press release.

https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15519.doc.htm

@volkris That's very long and a quick skim didn't turn up anything that refutes what I said, can you point me to the specific points you think do?

@StarkRG it's more that what you claim happened isn't in the UN report.

You can go through the entire document and you won't find the US saying that those deaths are acceptable. In fact the US says the opposite, but the key is that what you said happened is nowhere in the UN official reports.