BREAKING: The Colorado Supreme Court holds, 4-3, that Trump "is disqualified" to be president under the Fourteenth Amendment, and "it would be a wrongful act" for him to be listed on the Colorado presidential primary ballot. More to come at Law Dork: lawdork.com/

@volkris @chrisgeidner You're talking about that time the former guy tried to stay president after we fired him, right?

@liquor_american nope!

This is about the future, preventing voters from voting their choices on future ballots, not about the past.

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@volkris @chrisgeidner You see, what you're suggesting would actually violate the constitution, specifically Amendment XIV Section 3.

Please allow me to do the very tiny amount of work for you that you seem unable or unwilling to do for yourself:

@liquor_american The thing is, even if this is legal and correct and even moral or any standard of propriety that you would like to propose, it still does mean people can't vote for the candidate they want.

Even if it is entirely proper to throw out that democratic process, it still has to be owned that the democratic process is being thrown out.

No matter how correct this may be, it does mean people aren't able to vote for the candidate they want to vote for on the ballots.

And owning that might be part of emphasizing how important it is that this be done. It's reasonable to say that this is so important that we have to throw out democratic principles for the sake of keeping Trump off the ballot.

Fine.

It means that is just this important.

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@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner I want Taylor Swift to be president, yet I can't vote for her because she's 34. The democratic process is being thrown out! This is an outrage! I'm sure you support me fully in ignoring the part of the constitution that says you have to be 40 to be president, right? because you don't think the democratic process should be discarded just because the constitution says so?

@smellsofbikes Hey I'm all for supporting your voting for Swift.

I don't know what state you live in, but I am all for every voter in every state being able to vote for whoever they want to vote for.

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@volkris @liquor_american @chrisgeidner This is an interesting approach, but "hey we're going to ignore anything the constitution says that we feel infringes our personal sense of freedom" is a very difficult way to run a country.

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@smellsofbikes Hi, running a country is difficult, especially one like the US.

It was never expected to be easy.

And that is exactly why we have things like state control over election processes, because with the diversity of experiences, and values, and situations from the Atlantic to the Pacific we've needed a slightly complicated, slightly difficult system to account for that diversity.

And so we have a country with vertical separations of power so that different communities can be responsive to their unique needs and values.

Yeah, that can get difficult. But it's the system we have.

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