If you only plan to vote for Biden because he's the "lesser of two evils," what line would he have to cross such that you would no longer vote for him?
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@entwininglife If Biden declared himself a dictator that would be it.
I don't know how it isn't clear that Trump having another term would be the end of democracy.
Note I am trying to see it from your perspective, where you despise Biden. I don't. But even then, I would vote for him. I would even vote for Haley if there were only Trump and her, and I despise her. But at least there would be another chance in 4 years.
@okurth it's clear because that's not how the United States works. There is no mechanism by which democracy could or would be ended.
Presidents aren't presented with that choice. It's just not possible.
And so folks familiar with the structure of the US government recognize that claims like that are really wacky, and those promoting those claims come across as folks who have been really badly misled, taken advantage of.
@volkris @entwininglife I think that is too optimistic. Of course he couldn't decree that "democracy is hereby over". There are enough ways, given the powers of the presidency, among the power to issue pardons, for example to influence election results. Just see what he already tried with pressuring election officials, or what happened on January 6th.
@okurth see I go the other way with that: All of Trump's efforts and then the events around January 6th fell so hard on their faces, exactly as they had to, because there was no way it ever would have worked.
The end of Trump's presidency shows that even when he pushed as hard as possible, it's just not going to work. It can't work. So he was completely rebuked like the swatting of a gnat.
And that was only a tiny reflection of the impossibility. It didn't even get into issues of unlawful orders being null or the procedure is in place to carry out the order of succession.
The US was designed specifically to counter that kind of thing, and generations upon generations of development as so firmly established the democratic process into the workings of the entire system, up and down multiple levels of government, that there is just no way it could be undone like that.
The inevitable failure we watched on January 6th just reflected that reality.
