@StephenRamirez@universeodon.com that's only if you have a REALLY problematic view of presidents as some sort of moral standard instead of what they are, the jerk of a politician who happened to get to the top.

That great leader philosophy needs to be rejected. We should not normalize this notion that presidents, or anyone holding any other political office, are people to be admired and emulated.

For those of us who reject such ways of looking at politicians, what you're saying here doesn't follow.

We're bound to get an asshole in the Oval Office. That's just reality. We should keep that firmly in mind as we hold them to responsible for doing their dumb jobs.