Good activist have stopped pushing “technical solutions” and started to push “social solutions”.
Thinking If we change society the people can fix the problems themselves and this is the ONLY way good change actually happens.
The is activist experience behind this shift, tech fixes have a long documented history of not working.
Examples see #XR and citizen assembles (sortation) and the #fediverse “governance” project
Am arguing that “tech fixes” are a very 20th century way of looking at solving issues, were “social fixes” is the 21st century aproch that we need to push.
As #XR point out we are kinda fucked and can’t keep doing the same shit
In my experience, there's an issue of people not separating technical solutions to technical problems and social solutions to social problems.
The danger here is giving up technical solutions to technical problems just because technical solutions didn't solve social problems before.
It's like throwing away a hammer because it didn't work well on screws in the past.
@volkris yep it's a balance - this is aimed at the #geekproblem who think of tech to solve every issue, almost all need social solutions that technology can be a severnt to make work.
@witchescauldron I would push back on that saying it's not about balance but about different tools for addressing different, unrelated problems.
To go back to my analogy above, it's not that you need a balance between a hammer and a screwdriver, but that you need a hammer for nails, a screwdriver for screws, and the perspective of which is which.
This is on the side of my blog https://hamishcampbell.com
A river that needs crossing political and tech – On the political side, there is arrogance and ignorance, on the geek side there is naivety and over complexity
All code is ideology solidified into action – most contemporary code is capitalism, this is hardly a surprise if you think about this for a moment. Yes you can try and act on any ideology on top of this code but the outcome and assumptions are preprogramed… cant find any good links on this.
@witchescauldron well now I think you've left the world of problem solving and gone into abstract flights of fancy :)
No, I'm talking about real solutions to real problems, and choosing the proper, practical solutions to different problems of different domains.
I really don't have interested in these poetic notions like "most contemporary code is capitalism".
It's a silly thing to say, when there are real problems to be solved.
@witchescauldron the blog post doesn't really say anything of substance, though, just says something is a mess and something else is the solution, but not going into whats or hows.
I don't know what you expected to communicate there.
@volkris click on a few links, and you can find answers, from long expirence that we know work. try #geekproblem #fashernista but you will find a lot of repation, to make a simple point.
The is a URL to #OGB read back, and you can find project descriptions, though the coding site is down at mo, need sysadmin to get it back online.
And the #4opens is a path to mediate most of the mess you express, it's a basic and useful antidote to the #geekproblem.
Hope this helps :)
@volkris few more blog posts for you https://hamishcampbell.com to provide background you asked for
@witchescauldron If you want to say something then say it.
We're not going to go scrounging around some website to figure out what you're trying to say.
@volkris the #geekproblem is a mess we need to mediate - check site for more info if interested in the subject.
@volkris a post on the mess this kinda thinking can lead to https://hamishcampbell.com/the-mess-we-keep-making-of-foss-governance/