A year since the Hamas attack on Israel.
Yesterday I saw someone posting calling Hamas “animals” and saying they’ve left their progressive politics behind because of … well it was vague, but I assume because of the idea that children and hospitals shouldn’t be targets in a war.
They were hurting, had lost friends and family. But it was not a statement I could support.
This fucking war needs to end and the only people who can end it are refusing to.
@Laukidh No, it can't be ended. There is literally no one who can end it. The aggressor s are too dispersed without formalized command and control structures, so the aggression will continue, the war will continue.
That's just reality on the ground.
There can be no ceasefire because there's no one to agree to a ceasefire. The rockets will continue to fire, the war will continue.
That's just the unfortunate reality. It does us no good to turn a blind eye to it.
@Laukidh Yeah that's my point.
With out a reliable command structure it doesn't really matter what Hamas agrees to since that never has been a way to stop the rockets.
It doesn't matter what some public official agrees to if they're not actually in charge of the situation, which we saw over and over again, is the case here.
Yeah Hamas can agree to a lot of things. That's never meant that the agreements would be worth the paper the headlines are printed on. It's just posturing at that point.
@volkris You are blaming the dead Hamas negotiator for not being able to ensure his own survival, while in a consulate for a third country, in the capital of another fourth country?
I’m not sure I follow.
@volkris especially since there WAS a ceasefire already.
@Laukidh exactly, on paper there was a ceasefire, and yet people didn't cease firing, which goes to show exactly what I'm talking about, how impossible it is.
It's just not a realistic option. It was tried over and over again and here we are, it doesn't work, it's not a viable option.
@Laukidh No not at all!
I'm not blaming the dead Hamas negotiator for anything. He just wasn't relevant anyway. He doesn't have blame because he couldn't have stopped it no matter what. He did not have the ability to stop those outside of his chain of command.
He doesn't have blame because he never had the ability to stop it in the first place.
If you want to say Israel killed this guy for no reason, well I wouldn't go that far, but there is some element of truth to it.
@volkris Netanyahu could tell his military to stop deliberately targeting families, aid workers, and journalists. That doesn’t take a negotiation with the “aggressors”.
@Laukidh he could.
And the rockets would continue to be fired.
Both sides are aggressors here. The problem is, one side doesn't actually have the ability to stop aggressing. It's literally not possible because of the organization, or lack thereof, of the belligerants.
@volkris Hamas agreed to the ceasefire months ago, before the negotiators were killed in an Iranian consulate.