Perhaps Europe, Ukraine, and China should meet, to see if they can hash out a deal that doesn't involve Trump's people, or attempts to extort half a trillion from a war torn nation's economy.

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@KraftTea they had years to do this.

They didn't.

So now we're going to try something different.

@volkris Who's "we're"?!

Also, why view Ukraine as a situation that needs saving? They are winning the war by destroying Russia's arms and capability to wage war. Artillery went from about a 10-1 to 2-1 ratio, Ukraine probably has the advantage in armor at this point, produces about 3x the number of drones, which they are far more lethal with, etc.

In any event, whoever "we" are, they don't speak for the majority of those parties involved, and should probably fsck off.

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