We borrowed some #PHP code from #StackOverflow that had nested ternaries without parenthesis. Turns out that as a fatal error in PHP 8 on our production server but not on the earlier PHP on our development server. Wow... a language with breaking syntax changes. I'll stick with sound #Clojure, where you never have too few parenthesis.
@worldsendless Turns out running different versions in dev and prod while copying and pasting code from Stack Overflow is a bad combination... 🙂
@Crell @worldsendless Sounds like a case of poorly written PHP to me 🤷🏻♂️
@arnan @Crell @worldsendless Nested ternaries deserve to be broken.
@Crell @worldsendless @kevin yea I was gonna say, isn't that change just a move toward better structure and usability that has been ongoing since php 5 or so? Take out ambiguity and loose code standards and such ...
@arnan @worldsendless @kevin Yes, PHP has been on a decade long effort to fix all the dumb mistakes made in the 90s. Some of that cannot be done without some degree of breakage, but the internals team tries very hard to make it small and gradual as much as possible.
@worldsendless @kevin @arnan And were even broken in earlier PHP versions, because the default grouping logic was backward from literally every other language that has ternaries. 🙂 That's why it changed to make the () required, so that the language could transition to a more sensible grouping over time.