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Utah didn’t ban youth hormone therapy such as testosterone boosters for cis boys. It didn’t ban “gender affirming surgery” such as breast augmentation for cis girls.
Just for trans kids.
You know, in case you’re wondering if lawmakers are really out to “protect the children” like they claim.
Give me a break.
@georgetakei Why do boys need testosterone boosters anyway ?
@zleap if they have a medical condition that keeps their body from producing enough testosterone, they might be prescribed it so they can have a normal puberty. And kids who have puberty way earlier than normal are given puberty blockers. These are the exact same drugs that are prescribed to trans people, but they're way less controversial when cis people take them.
I get that, Is this common that kids either go through puberty early or have medical conditions,. I am guessing cancer can have an effect or at least the radio / chemo therapy.
I did read that there are lots of oestrogen mimicking chemicals out there, that can also cause problems, and maybe cause girls to go through puberty early.
But a good reason not to ban the use of puberry blockers, as I guess a child of say 11 / 12 can be given these if diagnosed with cancer, get the cancer treatment and upon completion get testosterone to kick start puberty
Of course i am not a doctor so am kind of speculating here a little.
So is there a correlation between states that practice religion more widely and these policies. ?
We have issues with the Church of England, they will bless Gay Marriage but not actually do the ceremony or something.
I kinda understand their teachings apparently outlaw being gay I just wondered if that is actually explicit in scripture or has been added over the years as people just object.
@zleap @SamuelBepis Oh man, you need to look up Utah and the Church Of Jesus Christ And The Latter-Day Saints, aka "Mormonism".
They literally believe that non-white skin is a sign of unrepented sin and only in the late 1970s started letting non-white people be priests and changed it to "a sign that your pre-existence self was a sinner" rather than an incontrovertible sign that you were currently sinning. The institution is REALLY bigoted, about everything.
@zleap @SamuelBepis and they believe in "continuous revelation" - the idea that the current head of the church is by definition a prophet being given direct current instructions from God. Which means that any time something shows up that the guy who wrote their holy book didn't think of, the current leaders make it up on the spot and that's The Will Of God. Which happens to always be extremely right-wing and bigoted for reasons nobody can fathom, I guess that's just what God is like.
@zleap @theweaselking The thing is, the Bible probably doesn't say anything about homosexuality at all. The "clobber passages" that conservatives cite are pretty ambiguous in the original languages. The word "homosexuality" and the concept of sexual orientation as we understand it now didn't even exist when these texts were written.
On the topic of puberty, this is a difficult time as it is, I would hope these kids are given just as much access to mental health support as these drugs. Body changes are kinda bad enough at 13, but at 7 must be pretty scary if no one else is going through the same, on the other end of the scale being the only person in the class not going through puberty would be awkward and lead to bullying too.
@zleap I mean, you'd HOPE that teenagers would get mental health support, not just medical health support, but millions of them can't get medical support, either. It's simply cruel to say that a medication that CAN help a child, where giving it to the child is harmless and helpful and denying it to them is harmful, and decide "nope, this kid managed to get help, that's illegal".
@zleap @SamuelBepis That's the point. These are perfectly normal drugs, given for good medical reasons, such that a child who hits puberty at, say, 7, can wait until 13, or one who won't hit puberty at all will have it happen on a normal schedule.
And the restrictions are not on the drugs, which are safe for both cis and trans kids. The restrictions are only on the patients.
Imagine if Utah passed a law saying gay people couldn't get anti-cancer drugs: That's how bigoted this is.