... sell me.

I have started to do a bit more and lisp like language things. This just generally pushes me into the world (just feels wrong doing lisp stuff in Vim). But if I am going to gear up and retool Emacs to use, maybe it is time to reconsider Spacemacs.

I am open minded enough to consider facts in making a decision. :)

@Absinthe

A bunch of my coworkers use #spacemacs. I have never tried it, and regular #emacs is so much a part of my lizard brain, after using it daily since about 1984 (zmacs on a Symbolics Lisp machine first), that I probably never will. It's always the first thing I install on a new Mac, Linux, or Windows machine. I basically LIVE in #emacs, and #slime.

@billstclair Well, that is the choices + or ....
Or with layer. Probably ultimately 6 of 1...

@Absinthe

If you're doing lisp development, you'll want #slime, whether you use #spacemacs or plain #emacs. I also highly recommend #quicklisp as well, not just plain #asdf.

@billstclair so and not then? I think I have quicklisp, that is loading the stuff qith ql:quicklad to get lisp-unit.

@Absinthe

ql:quickload is indeed quicklisp. I have never even heard of #sly, so I can't compare.
@Absinthe

Interesting. #sly is a #slime fork, with a lot of extras. I'm accustomed to #slime, so I doubt I'll switch, but if I were starting anew, I might like it.

@billstclair that's what I thought. So it sounds like CCL is alive and kicking, that would be a decent one to use over gcl, sbcl, or CLISP?

@Absinthe

I use CCL every day. One project also works in SBCL and LIspworks.

I recommend the April 2019 1.12 snapshot, then `(rebuild-ccl :full t)` as described.

https://github.com/Clozure/ccl/releases/tag/v1.12-dev.5

Rebuilding the CCL kernel requires a standard `gcc` development environment plus the `m4` macro processor. In Ubuntu, that's the `build-essential` and `m4` apt packages.
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@billstclair excellent, I may just do that tonight. I feel so special! Like I have an "in" :)

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