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I took it out and when I went to put it back in, I notice there are 65+ packages that start with Evil* I have put evil back in place. But do I want these others?

@Absinthe

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil

vi in emacs. Aptly named. But I suppose if your fingers have learned that abomination, you might like it. Mine won't. Ever.
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@billstclair there are just too many features I use so often that I miss. But the E is for extensible right? Who really cares whether you hit y or alt-w or p or crl-y?

@Absinthe

Of course. Once you get used to a set of commands, you want it everywhere. Hence my love of the default Emacs command set in text fields on the Mac and my search whenever I install a new Ubuntu for how to do that there (which I haven't done enough times to remember it off the top of my head).

"Emacs originally was an acronym for Editor MACroS." https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Origin-of-the-term-Emacs.html

This was the time of FORmula TRANslator and COmmon Business Oriented Language and LISt Processing language.

I like the names of the editors in Magic Six and Seven, two PL1-based languages for the Perkin Elmer machines at the MIT Architecture Machine Group (now the MIT Media Lab) in the 1970s.

Eine Is Not Emacs
Zwei Was Eine Initially

And an Emacs subset made by Mark of the Unicorn (now named just MOTU), which ran under CP/M on Z80 machines in 1982 (and on PDP-11 computers under RT-11, complements of some low-level keyboard input code I gave to them):

Mince Is Not Complete Emacs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINCE

@billstclair

O was thinking of "EMACS: The Extensible, Customizable Display Editor" gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-p

Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift is what I think of... :) I still use both Emacs keys as well as Vim commands at the same time. and if I do C-Z I am back in emacs mode anyway.

But I use Vim keys in the browser, in Eclipse, in Emacs.. So yes when you get used to a set of commands.

So do you use Hemlock and Cocoa?

@billstclair I do love recursive acronyms because of course GNUs Not Unix.

In 1982 it would still be another 7 years before I would start looking at computers seriously. At which time I would be on IBM mainframe doing COBOL and using Xedit of all things. I am much happier working in AIX and GNU/Linux now.

Hey, I even got Portacle to install, and shift over to Evil and SLY on my chrome book. Not a bad little environment.

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