It's bandied about by the type of person that says "roastie" unironically, and it's probably safe to assume that's where it came from. (Sorry your divorce went so poorly, dude.) You can notice that it presents a peak from 13-18 and a drop-off around the time they describe as "the wall": after 25, the chart presents a precipitous fall and according to the chart, by the time a woman's 27, fewer than half of all men will find her attractive. That is, the data in the chart lines up perfectly with their talking points, and it doesn't resemble anything in the paper. Lately, I've seen it pushed around by the creepy pedo crowd to justify something or another (you people are unreadable), and then recently by someone on Spinster whose point was "All men are pedophiles! HERE'S A CHART!" (Sorry your divorce went so poorly, ma'am.) The chart gets shoved around the internet by people that think it'll bolster their point, and then either tacitly accepted by people they're arguing with or both of them are playing the same game and they didn't even look at the chart before responding with an infographic or an ad hominem or something.
The gullibility is mind-boggling. How does this happen?
The data's presented in a dry, somewhat professional-looking graph. It's easy to understand immediately. No one posting it appears to have read the paper in question: here's a chart! People wouldn't just make up a chart to lie on the internet! Look, it's got a citation! It's got the trappings of legitimacy, but it's completely illegitimate. So my suspicion is that the root cause is laziness, sloppy thinking (confirmation bias is a hell of a drug), and the Twitter Disease, where the goal of every post is to win a stupid political argument on the internet and they don't care if what they're doing is repeating someone else's agitprop because the people they talk to every day are actually Enemies and if you ever lose any ground in a stupid political argument on the internet, $bogeyman wins and all of humanity is plunged into a dark age.
I don't think there's an easy society-wide solution. I think people are going to continue to care about the *appearance* of legitimacy more than they care whether what they are saying is legitimate or not, and the distortion of every human interaction is not going to die off on its own. This is the major problem with totalizing political philosophies, essentially anything that says, in effect, "The personal is the political." (That stuff you can find in Marx and Stalin and Hitler and every other social catastrophe: if there's nothing outside the reach of politics in your view, if every conversation you have involves pushing politics, or if you cannot be friends with someone that doesn't share your politics, you've got the disease.)
That having been said, the possibility of solving the problem in society is a different question from the possibility of solving the problem yourself. That's completetly possible: you can stop being stupid. (Or, at least empirically, I can say that it's possible to successively approximate not being stupid.) You can check primary sources: if someone's point (even if it's your point) relies on a chunk of data, look at the data. Does it hold up? Does the point rely on ignoring any of the data? Where did the data come from? A lot of sociological data uses only people age 18-22, because it's easier to put up a flier outside the dorms and because you can much more easily get an undergrad to trade 2-4 hours of their time for $50 than an adult with kids: this is not exactly a representative sample for everything, as it's clamped to age, it implies an income bracket and a higher education level than a big chunk of the population has. (A somewhat famous series of studies on human sexuality used, for many of its studies, a pool of convicted sex offenders to get the data, probably farther removed from a representative sample than college students; I've touched enough third rails already, you probably know or can guess who it is. Why not go look at the primary sources yourself?)
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@p so, if I am reading this correctly, it appears to suggest that a 10 y/o girl is equally attractive as 38 y/o and an 11 to a 29 y/o?
It would arguably be difficult to differentiate a 10 or 11 y/o girl from a 10/11 y/o boy at that point in development absent some precocious development.
I would put their testing methods and conclusions on the same level as the people trying to cure "gays". I would say both the study and resultant chart are dubious at best.
However, if it is being used in some X-Wave feminist anti-male propaganda, then since it fits the preconceived notion of all PiV sex is rape, and all men are <insert your crime here>. Then it is a perfect chart. Because it supports the argument. And isn't that what is most important? Finding something to support an argument, rather than something that might change your mind?
In addition, they are taking a sampling of 80 men. Well, presumably these 80 men are of varying ages. Sexual attractiveness to a man as he progresses through his life stages changes. Although we show it in movies, most 10 year old boys have no sexual interest in mature women with Rubinesque proportions, but rather are starting to notice the subtle changes in the girls in their peer age group. And even the possibility or catching a glimpse of something forbidden, or at least normally hidden. As he ages so do the aspects that catch his attention. This should progress, but also, social pressures, opportunity, and probably the media a person consumes will further mold and "template" what he finds attractive. Certainly just looking at the difference in interest in tiny bottoms of the 1960's and much larger more pronounced ones of today comes from somewhere. How much is it internal natural cues for a healthy partner to pass on genetics? One would think the waif would never present with such cues, as such she would be considered weak,sickly, malnourished, and in natural choosing, not a good potential with which to pass on genetics. But at a point that was all the rage. Where does that image of sexual attractiveness come from?
> so, if I am reading this correctly, it appears to suggest that a 10 y/o girl is equally attractive as 38 y/o and an 11 to a 29 y/o?
That's what the *chart* says, yes, but the chart is a fiction. The chart cites the paper, but the paper has nothing even remotely related to what's in the chart. Whoever made the chart just added the citation to make the chart *look* credible.
@p then why share it and give it more exposure?
@p I wish have never seen it had you not showed it here. :)
