@determinerik has that person ever seen a cow eating? There’s a reason livestock was popular even in the times of widespread famine, herbivores can access nutrients in plants that are inaccessible to us, to the point of being incredibly useful despite the inherent inefficiency of converting feed to meat to then eat that meat.

@Amikke which is true, and helpful in arid areas where a couple of goats and sheep or chickens can graze and pick their way to being a good protein source.

This is no longer the case. We use millions and millions of acres of fertile ground to grow grass and corn to feed to our cattle to produce meat. That is, in fact, a very inefficient way to produce quality food. But we do it because we like the taste of steak, and want it cheap.

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@determinerik the ground for growing grass for feed can be much less fertile, and plants are generally much more efficient if you can digest cellulose. Even things like corn which we can only use the seeds of, cows can use the whole plant.

It’s not as black&white as most vegans suggest.

@Amikke it is not.
But the land used to feed 60 billion animals, added to the land we already use to grow plant based foods, could definitely feed 7,9 billion people.
And that's the point, I think.

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