think its funny everyone is all like "oh no conspiracy theories" in a time where they're literally happening in real time

@icedquinn 100 conspiracy theories are created, 50 conspiracy theories are propagated as surely true, 2 of them end up being true, "look guys we were right all along, conspiraciez r realz", the rest is either disproved enough to change the narrative to "uhh we didn't actually believe in them, they were planted by the feds to make us seem insane" or get covered up in embarrassment, or it's not and each stays propagated as surely true until it too collapses into true or disproven enough.

It's like with the Alex Jones was right meme, it's funny but it obviously works on a broken clock basis.

@Amikke they don't care about the fake ones though. the people pushing this stuff are literally out in public bragging about what they are doing to people and then turn around crying about conspiracy theories (read: people pointing out when they said they were doing to do something)

@icedquinn not really tho, there's a lot of conspiracy theories that are both extremely unlikely to be true and harmful enough to be fought against. Off the top of my head because it's a bit of my pet peeve, the holokaust deniers are one of the most retarded conspiracy movements I've seen, and obviously they're being fought because never forgetting what people are capable of doing to other people in a totalitarian enough setting is most of its historical value, not Jewish oppression olympics.

What does "fighting" ideas you consider to be false and harmful entail exactly?

@Hyolobrika @icedquinn "crying about conspiracy theories" for a start. Combined with "they don't care about the fake ones" suggests that every conspiracy theory publicly opposed is true, which is ridiculous.

@Amikke @Hyolobrika If you want to make up random-ass words to believe i'm not going to stop you.

if you think that's what i said, you didn't understand it at all.
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@icedquinn @Hyolobrika these are direct quotes tho. Looks like I misunderstood and you're not actually defending conspiracy theorists but rather talking about a specific way that term is used to attack people who are more of whistleblowers or investigative journalists? But you're phrasing it in the exact same way as actual conspiracy nuts defending their siege mentality and trying to downplay the term "conspiracy theorists" itself.

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