@divVerent @thor @inference That sounds pretty supportive of FLOSS. The statements about Windows and Apple are just mockery. Running from problems seems to be the path that both have taken but I will give Apple credit where it is due. When they swapped to the M1 it left me confused as to why. A mostly homogeneous ecosystem is going to be easier to maintain, optimize and provide a good experience. It's a pretty slick move by Apple.

The statement about Android being considered secure enough was only referring to Samsung devices with Knox being approved by the DoD for some applications. I don't think it lasted long.

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> The statement about Android being considered secure enough was only referring to Samsung devices with Knox being approved by the DoD for some applications. I don't think it lasted long.

Enter Google Titan M HSM.

In b4 you have no idea what I'm talking about.
@AmpBenzScientist @divVerent @thor Doesn't matter if it's ARM or RISC-V. Irrelevant, unless you're just part of the FOSS cult who can't tell what the word "security" really means. Hint: it's not "I can see the code".

I shouldn't drink Coca-cola, because it's a proprietary recipe. In fact, I shouldn't eat any food, because how do I actually know the ingredients aren't lying? There is *always* trust. Period.

Coming from someone in the security field with years of work.
@inference @thor @divVerent @AmpBenzScientist if I want to feel secure I want to be able to see the code.

and YES, you shouldn't eat any food you don't know the contents of.
if a company is lying on the label then it may use something toxic that isn't approved by health regulators
@straw @thor @divVerent @AmpBenzScientist Tell me how I know the RISC-V chip is actually to the spec they claim. You can't do that unless you make your own, in your own fabrication plant.

Same as food. Do you have a way to alalyse every ingredient in the packet?
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@inference @divVerent @thor @straw Tell you how you would know? I wouldn't know how you would know. RISC-V is Open Source Licensed so a company can make a custom RISC-V processor without being sued. There is the difference in ISA. There are quite a few ways to figure out if it isn't what it is claimed to be.

The Titan M2 is not a pure RISC-V design but a custom design based on the RISC-V architecture. You should add RISC-V to your cult members because it is Open Source.

So why do you have such a negative view of FLOSS? I'm curious.

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