@Murray_N @blitzed yeah, I think you're exactly right about the lifestyle... people always tryna decouple the diet from the lifestyle... you may get the diet out of the Mediterranean, but you won't get the Mediterranean out of the diet... food is more than just energy, it's also information about the environment https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magazine/the-island-where-people-forget-to-die.html
@js290 @Murray_N @blitzed It's not just the food, lifestyle and environment; it's also the gut flora. US soldiers traveling overseas continue to eat bag lunches and drink heavily treated water. They get the shits upon arrival and it is ignored when a soldier sprints to the nearest head.
Is modern food unhealthy? Yeah it probably is but name an alternative when everything has estrogen like compounds in it. We're fucked and we did it to ourselves.
@js290 @Murray_N @blitzed I don't care about a quote when MREs can keep American Soldiers fighting for 3 days. We have an imperfect diet when viewed from the wrong angle. If you need 6,000 calories a day and approximately 200g of protein, it's not difficult to get. That's what I eat in a day because of weight lifting. I can't eat raw, free range soy beans and raw fish to achieve those numbers. If the calories were all meat based, I wouldn't expect to make it to 40.
Scurvy and Cretinism are rare now compared to whenever this guy is referring to. Type 2 Diabetes is from being a slob in many cases. Obesity is poor self control or perhaps an advantage. Heart disease wouldn't be an issue if most people died before 40.
I see nothing but a person thinking that what they observed was representative of reality and not the survival of the fittest.
@AmpBenzScientist @Murray_N @blitzed lol, never surprised to find "weight lifting," "survival of the fittest," and reductionism in the same post... sorta like food production is just N, P, K, and supply chain
@AmpBenzScientist @Murray_N @blitzed "We can safely say that what primitive man ate instinctively comprised of a complete diet. On the other hand, instead of leading us toward a complete diet, modern science has resulted in the discovery of a more sophisticated yet imperfect diet. Man's quest for a complete diet has led him in the opposite direction." -Masanobu Fukuoka, The Natural Way Of Farming, Natural Farming and Natural Diet