A Concerned Scientist @BE@qoto.org
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This is really quite interesting and something I hadn't thought too much about being that UV is used to break down VOCs in certain settings.
After reading this I grabbed a UVC lamp and a VOC detector and in a totally non-scientifically controlled space(a room in my house) I closed it all up and turned on the lamp after reading the VOCs for a bit. The VOCs dropped at first, but then started climbing steadily back up to where they started by about 20 minutes. I turned it off at 30 minutes and aired out the room.
@ericsslater I don't even want to weigh in on this specific incidence, but people can't handle things being anything but good or bad anymore. There's no room for nuance in society's thought process at this point. It's just "Tell me if it's right or wrong" and move on. I don't know what it'll take to fix this, or if it can be fixed within the framework of modern society.
@johncormier @TRyanGregory@mstdn.science
You are 100% correct on that. I often talk about how our COVID response is almost identical to our climate change response.
Honestly, I just thought we had better public health that had learned from history.
Lesson learned for me!
@anniegreens @TRyanGregory@mstdn.science
When I first read this this morning I told my wife that if you'd have told me 10 years ago that there'd be a global pandemic and our public health services would just shrug their shoulders and not care, while people giving warnings would be economists in Fortune, MarketWatch and the WaPo business section I would have never believed you.
@tanyawillhite @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social
Having just read this for the first time I'm stuck by the fact the posts from @Raspberry_Pi@raspberrypi.social sound *just like* my middle schooler. Not a great look from top to bottom here.
What gets me is things that were clearly NOT OK before the pandemic, somehow are now? I would have never just gone everywhere sick and hacking all over, but somehow that's just the norm now. Not only did society choose to ignore COVID, but somehow decided that spreading everything else is just acceptable now. It honestly blows my mind.
@White_Bite @EricCarroll @edsuom
Let me weigh in with another bit of the little info I do have. I woke up in the middle of the night thinking about this from when I looked it up previously.
Your paranasal sinuses are producers of NO. Again, concentrations of that vs what Enovid produces are unclear to me. Perhaps that data's out there. However, I do remember one doctor(perhaps correctly or perhaps wrongly) saying that humming produces more NO than Enovid. So, here's link on humming and NO production in your sinuses:
@White_Bite @EricCarroll @edsuom
Definitely not in my wheelhouse. I just see there's a lot of confusion on this point. People go look up NO2 and find out it's a smelly, brown gas commonly found in air pollution and wonder why it's used in medicine.
From the hour or so I spent looking at it a few months ago I know it's used in ventilation of newborns, so I suspect that over that time period it's probably quite well studied. That's also much, much higher amounts than I suspect you're talking in a quick nasal spray. High dose for short time vs small dose for longer time of NO is way outside of my knowledge base.
I've never dug into it much further than that, but if you do from your background and knowledge base, please share!
@White_Bite @EricCarroll @edsuom
This is a common misconception that I've seen a lot. Being a chemist I try to clear it up when I see it.
Enovid is also known as NONS, or Nitric Oxide(NO) Nasal Spray. It is not Nitrogen Dioxide(NO2).
@Shan_is_sweet @DeanObeidallah
Seriously. I keep asking and hoping!
This is an excellent article. My wife's a teacher and in 2020 she stepped out of the public school classroom after almost 15 years. She now works at an alternative school and often remarks that she had no idea how stressed, and ultimately miserable, she really was because she *loves* teaching, but the system is completely broken. She had to step away and look back at it to realize it.
Perfect example of someone who's always believed he's way more important than he really is.
@steven I was thinking about exactly this earlier today. Instead of just saying "Hey, one of the ways we can get out of this mess we've created is to wear masks" they'd rather go with "If you're sick you should be a good person and wear a mask, but you're only sick because everyone else is refusing." It is really weird to go to those lengths of twisted logic and wordplay instead of just saying that masks work in the first place.
I leave my replies to others as unlisted, but, I'm also a Mastodon noob.
@jeffgilchrist Really great thread. Well put together. Thank you for putting all of that info in one place.
My kids are 9 and 11 and as far as I'm concerned they're mature enough to read about it themselves. My wife and I read a lot of studies in journals and they understand how we feel about the subject because we discuss it in front of them. Then when articles come out that summarize the science we give them the links and let them read. Recent articles they've read include:
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/covid-19-disrupts-gut-microbiome
From there they come to their own conclusions and generally want to discuss it with us from time to time. It leads to terrific discussions about capitalism, society as a whole, poverty and wealth, risk management, etc.
Being up to date with things has put them in a situation where they feel comfortable about what they're doing to avoid COVID and as things stand today they wouldn't have it any other way even if we wanted them to.
Pretty sure you'll find plenty if you look around this instance, qoto.org, a bit.
@fitterhappierAJ By the 2nd or 3rd wave we should have figured out how this all works, but I *still* hear people doing the whole "It's mild" then "At least there's no hospitalization spike" inevitably followed by "Well, the deaths aren't so bad this time" and then you don't hear from them again until the start of the next wave when they tell you that it's mild again. It's sheer insanity.
It's weird how many people who claim that they're cancelled, de-platformed and censored keep ending up in my news feeds, right?
It's really just because it's easier to make money there, correct? It's been pretty transparent to me to see who I followed who then went here versus who's going to Post. Some people want to get information out to the most people possible and some people only care if they make a brand.
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