meta mastodon moderation / blocking 

Wow - this is awesome. Now, I'm old enough to have been a moderator on Fidonet. And on IRC. Both the regular IRC and the one that ran as a backend to a huge social network (Sweden only) that was a bit like Facebook but long before Facebook. And some other things.

But the discussions on #fediblock regarding defederation are definitely bringing up a completely new aspect to network moderation I haven't really seen in this light before.

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meta mastodon moderation / blocking 

Instances can get defederated by other instances for the following reasons:

1) Not moderating "well enough"
2) Peering with other instances that aren't moderated "well enough"
3) Hosting accounts of a type others don't want to have in their federation

... and no two instances are in complete agreement what's covered in 1, 2 or 3.

Now let's be clear - I don't consider anything here to be wrong. I'm pondering the wider effects.

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meta mastodon moderation / blocking 

On Fidonet (fully authenticated real name network) you could get excommunicated. No Fidonet node would be allowed to host you. It was a complete ban.

On IRC this sort of instance-wide disagreements would lead to complete network breakups. EFnet, IRCnet kind - etc. Currently the fediverse has done something like this with the alt-right instances vs "the rest". (I don't consider the US left vs right terminology to apply globally, but let's use that here)

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meta mastodon moderation / blocking 

So, back to the original list. I think we're fine with instances blocking other instances because that specific instance has an opinion. It'll lead to a lot of user support (and I think muting should be the first option instead of defederation) but ok.

3 is stranger. When it's about specific accounts, block those - not instances.

And then we have 2 - defederating because other instances federate with those you block:

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meta mastodon moderation / blocking 

That's dangerous. It's a "you should do as I want you to otherwise I will punish you" action. It's authoritarian. It's the very opposite to the whole point of decentralization.

And the effect it will have is the full network type split - but not just between "alt-right" and "the rest" - but anything where two people can be of different opinions.

Which is everything.

And that will lead to the fediverse ending up as a few large _unconnected_ instances.

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And that will lead to the fediverse ending up as a few large _unconnected_ instances. (3/3)

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