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@jwildeboer Not that I am going to dissect this too much, but what's your lament specifically about?

When I hear how they do it in China, I certainly am not ready to accept living in a society mimicking their ways of manipulation and isolationism. No clue how they do it in say Indonesia, or so, but I would also not have much trust in precision of reporting from India, or Bangladesh.

My personal guess would be that those plots you sent to a large extent reflect western societies being 1) open to the outside, as well as within; and 2) high degree of testing/diagnosis/reporting.

It's actually easy to achieve low profiles in such plots (as witnessed by many countries): close your eyes, stop testing and you are good.

So what are those lessons we should learn in Europe?

@jwildeboer I am trying to check excess mortality as a perhaps more useful indicator: ourworldindata.org/excess-mort and you know what I found? It seems most interesting Asian countries do not report 🤔 .

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