Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
> Průměrná pražská domácnost, která pro odběr elektřiny využívá jednotarifní distribuční sazbu, v rámci které elektřinou neohřívá vodu v bojleru a elektřinou netopí, by tak po zastropování a započtení všech poplatků měla podle PRE platit kolem čtrnácti set korun měsíčně. Oproti současnosti je to zhruba o tři sta korun více.

how i am already very above average (electricity consumption-wise) prague household
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Piggo :verified_horse:
@pony how many servers do you run? i pay 960
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@piggo one? they ask for 1750 installments now
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Piggo :verified_horse:
@pony so, what's your consumption? I have roughly 115kWh/month. Baseline for empty apartment is 60W (server + fridge)
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@piggo how am i supposed to know
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Piggo :verified_horse:
@pony from the paper that's so hard to understand if you dont have anything better
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@piggo 2520 kWh in a year (feb to feb 2021-22)
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FailForward

@pony That’s quite a lot if you live as a single person. I do like <1500kWh/yr with 2 persons on average, so that’s in the @piggo ‘s range. If you spend 1/3rd more, some appliance is probably eating too much - old lamps, bad fridge, washing clothes every day, or something.

@piggo

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FailForward

@pony BTW, are you sure you don’t have a “prutokovy ohrivac” somewhere (like kitchen)?

@piggo

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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo yeah i do but it's gas

let's be real, it's probably the computers
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Just randomly googling around tells me that an average PC with a display would do around 250W at peak and maybe half that at idle. Assuming 10h/day on, that would make anywhere between 400-900kWh/yr. Well, that’s a lot. I never though about it this way. Hmm.

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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo yeah now consider i have two displays (ofc) and not really an average pc, also 10 hours a day is actually underestimated :D
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo what is definitely worth a consideration is potential savings from my "server" in the closet
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FailForward

@pony Right, and especially looking at its BIOS power setting and disk usage is useful.

I know this is nit-picky, but myself I get always mightily annoyed when every now and then a firmware/app update on my NAS causes it spinning disks without a reason - just because some silly app dev somewhere on the other side of the world thought that polling I/O is a smart move or something. Apart from the sound being annoying (I have it in the living room), it annoys me that some stupid software is playing disco with my disks without any good reason.

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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo i have it in a small closet, which is fine, but also has ventilation issues, which, yeah, that energy comes from somewhere, doesn't it
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FailForward

@pony Well, I have that too, but with a laptop at a dock station. Anyhow, when you eventually discover what it is, please report back, I am curious. Being an energy saving freak is nothing new for me, but I guess more people around are adopting this as a new hobby these days 😉

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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo well, if the potential saving is approaching maybe even 10k czk a year, i guess there's some motivation
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Piggo :verified_horse:
@FailForward @pony my PC with two displays takes 210W so yeah that also does something. It still doesn't quite explain why pony's bill is twice as high
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@piggo @FailForward i'm twice as good as you
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Piggo :verified_horse:
@pony @FailForward obviously

also you have a needlessly overpowered server at home
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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@piggo @FailForward it's idling most of the time
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FailForward

@pony Maybe in fact it’s not idling 😕 . Anyhow, at that price tag, suddenly that 10% price hike at Hetzner for a dedicated machine does not look too bad, right?

@piggo

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Cat poni, Whorseman of Apocalypse
@FailForward @piggo well, i don't really *want* it, but i just need the disks locally even with my relatively fast internet connection now
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FailForward

@pony I guess that for 10k CZK you’d get a nice passively cooled NAS for your disks. My RAM upgraded QNAP with x64 Intel Celeron happily runs the disks together with all the lxc/docker containers I need (and Kodi, Plex, et al.) and occasionally a Windows VM just for fun. I did not measure how much it really draws, but QNAP’s spec says 10W at disk idle and 18W operational. That’s a magnitude less than the PC we spoke about above.

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