Why is leaving the Google and Apple mobile ecosystem a thing?
Because, even if you opt out of whatever the OS offers, you are still leaking data to them at an unacceptable rate.
@Marcel Fröhlich Nice to see they decoupled all the google stuff (though still uses microG). I do understand the apeal of this and I think having such alternative to google and apple is great step forward. But I think in long run we should build independent system. Just like fediverse which is build independent from ground up rather then a frontend to facebooks.
@muppeth what is microG?
@Marcel Fröhlich floss implementation of goole play services. But it is used to access google services just using floss imeplementation on your phone rather then closed source one.
@muppeth why should they access Google Play at all? they have replicated all infrastructure, e.cloud services including an app store.
@Marcel Fröhlich Sure, but the app ecosystem uses it. Push services, locations, in-app purchase and all that jazz. Sure it's nice they run also nextlcould, searx and email for their users, but there is more to it unfortunatelly and ton of app srequire access to google services. It's another reason why I think the entire ecosystem is wrong as it's relying on google infra. Sure it can be a daily driver. I myself run lineageos with only apps from fdroid until recently. But decided to switch to pinepohne even though it's very much alpha state and there is a long way to get it to stable state, but I do think just like with federated networks or FLOSS in general, the only way to get independent of big tech is building your own tools.
@muppeth It is much more than an OS. It is a complete ecosystem. You can buy phones off the shelf running it.