I wanted to welcome Harry Chen PhD to his account is @HarryChenPhD

He lives in China, and from what I can tell is currently living in Wuhan, the epicenter of the where he posts videos updating us all on the situation. He labels himself as a "renegade journalist".

He was recently banned from twitter because, well, China doesnt really like renegades or journalists. So we are proud to act as a platform to help him host his videos and get the word out on how things develop. Consider following him.

You can read a bit about how twitter oppressed his freedom of speech and what ultimately brought him to the fediverse at these two links:

reclaimthenet.org/twitter-susp

reddit.com/r/Conservative/comm

@elia

Not even sure what that means. Its mostly just posts of videos by the look of it. Anything "anti-china" about it seems to mostly just be honesty around their practices (manipulation and dishonesty) to their citizens.

@HarryChenPhD

@freemo @HarryChenPhD I was not referring to the videos per se. He could try harder with his claims. He says "they are hiding evidence", evidence of...? It's just a gratuitous attack against China with literally nothing to back it up.

@elia @freemo would you say that china has been totally transparent with the international community?

To be clear, there is a lot of evidence to back up the claim that china is hiding evidence or in other words, covering something up...there is overwhelming evidence in fact.

In regards to the video itself, It's just a short video clip with a title...dont think too much, and, I am trying to learn this app, I was keeping things concise because if a bad twitter habit. Not trying to attack the noble and righteous government of china...we all owe them a thanks for saving the world.

@HarryChenPhD

For my part, I think China is one of the worst violators of human rights. They hide virtually **everything** from everyone they can get away with. They are not transparent in any way.

With that said I would not be surprised int he least if they are "hiding something" in fact they are certainly hiding many somethings.

My criticism is more that saying "they are hiding something" is so non-specific that it isnt really saying anything.. What is being hidden? Why do you think its hidden? What are the rumours or concerns? These are important questions, and to me would be useful to hear about, which is why I press you for details.

But I think just saying "they are hiding something" may work against you a bit because people need more than that to judge the situation.

@elia

@freemo @HarryChenPhD @elia

Let me say that while China is a human rights violator this is nothing compared to the US Empire and what it did for decades and is currently doing to the rest of the world, in addition to their hypocrisy in presenting their selves as defenders of democracy.

Also it's worth noticing that during this virus crisis Italy didn't get any help from other European countries like Germany or France nor from USA. What Europe got from USA now are 30 000 soldiers which officially came for military exercises as if the coronavirus was not here.

On the other hand China sent us in Italy masks with encouraging messages (see image below, it says: "we are with you, come on Italy!").

@post

Strongly disagree. No doubt USA is a human rights violater as with every major power, no arguments, but they dont even come CLOSE to china's violations. Come on are you really going to justify a country that 1) annexes countries and forces them to be part of china 2) forces people into reprogramming facilities against their will for things as simple as their choice of religion.

As for china giving more help to Italy than America, even if thats true, considering thye are the ones who started the Corona virus I would very much hope so! They should be doing a lot more than that.

@HarryChenPhD @elia

@freemo @post @HarryChenPhD China started the coronavirus... I think I read enough...

@elia @HarryChenPhD @post

By that I mean, it originated in a china, as a result of bush meat consumption that was unregulated. They did not use proper measures to contain or prevent the virus.

I did **not** mean that they intentionally engineered or released the virus or any sort of conspiracy nonsense.

@freemo @HarryChenPhD @post ok, they could surely improve hygienic conditions, but I don't know how much that can prevent new viruses from forming. I don't blame that on China. Instead I think they handled the situation really well from the beginning.
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@elia @freemo @post really? You think they handled it well since the beginning? They were caught trying to cover it up...Dr. Li told some friends who told the world and that doctor was arrested and interrogated for days, he later died...so he cabt testify to that...so you can imagine my amazement to hear you think they handled it really well since the beginning. If I might ask, what was it that stood out from the december outbreaks that made you believe that the communist party of china acted so well...because they didnt officially act for 30 days...so during that 30 day period, what was it that stood out to you?๐Ÿง

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@HarryChenPhD @elia @freemo

I didn't say so. But Italy and in future USA are risking a total collapse and we don't even have monetary sovereignty to save people.

This is not China's fault, our system was extremely fragile because of the same neoliberist ideology that is making exploitaion of workers in China a reality.

@post @elia @freemo china told everyone to resume trade as normal and not to shut down the airports...WHO later backed china after taking a visit there...so you are saying that's not China's fault? Why are you even talking about the US? What do they have to do with anything?

@HarryChenPhD

I think this goes back to what I said, everything centers around his hate for the US and "neo-liberals".. i think he is so hyperfocused on that he probably brings all world-issues back to the USA.. It seems to be a pattern I see since talking to him.

@post @elia

@freemo @post @elia US was smart to shut down its boarders, nothing reviled around them this time, which is why this matter has been so politically unique

@HarryChenPhD @freemo @post Well, it's easy to put blame after the fact. I think every single country out there is trying to cover it up as well right now. Because no one wants to loose the competitive edge.
I think the Chinese authorities did well in silencing rumors and later imposing the Wuhan quarantine. Here in Italy the goverment's measures were leaked the day before they were enacted, allowing people to escape all over Italy, away from Lombardy, the pandemic's epicenter.
China may have acted 30 days late, but Italy later and all other countries even later. So I think they acted comparatively pretty quickly and efficiently. They also acknowledged the errors made, so there is room for improvement and it's a much better signal then "the coronavirus is a democrat's new hoax".
Regarding Dr. Li, his story is very sad, but from what I know, the Chinese authorities completely discharged him from any accusations days before his death. He surely did his best given the circumstances.
Of course *if* the virus potential damage was better assessed, they could have acted much sooner and avoid terrible mistakes, but unfortunately humans do not understand the exponential function.
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