I wanted to welcome Harry Chen PhD to his account is @HarryChenPhD

He lives in China, and from what I can tell is currently living in Wuhan, the epicenter of the where he posts videos updating us all on the situation. He labels himself as a "renegade journalist".

He was recently banned from twitter because, well, China doesnt really like renegades or journalists. So we are proud to act as a platform to help him host his videos and get the word out on how things develop. Consider following him.

You can read a bit about how twitter oppressed his freedom of speech and what ultimately brought him to the fediverse at these two links:

reclaimthenet.org/twitter-susp

reddit.com/r/Conservative/comm

@elia

Not even sure what that means. Its mostly just posts of videos by the look of it. Anything "anti-china" about it seems to mostly just be honesty around their practices (manipulation and dishonesty) to their citizens.

@HarryChenPhD

@freemo @HarryChenPhD I was not referring to the videos per se. He could try harder with his claims. He says "they are hiding evidence", evidence of...? It's just a gratuitous attack against China with literally nothing to back it up.

@elia @freemo would you say that china has been totally transparent with the international community?

To be clear, there is a lot of evidence to back up the claim that china is hiding evidence or in other words, covering something up...there is overwhelming evidence in fact.

In regards to the video itself, It's just a short video clip with a title...dont think too much, and, I am trying to learn this app, I was keeping things concise because if a bad twitter habit. Not trying to attack the noble and righteous government of china...we all owe them a thanks for saving the world.

@HarryChenPhD

For my part, I think China is one of the worst violators of human rights. They hide virtually **everything** from everyone they can get away with. They are not transparent in any way.

With that said I would not be surprised int he least if they are "hiding something" in fact they are certainly hiding many somethings.

My criticism is more that saying "they are hiding something" is so non-specific that it isnt really saying anything.. What is being hidden? Why do you think its hidden? What are the rumours or concerns? These are important questions, and to me would be useful to hear about, which is why I press you for details.

But I think just saying "they are hiding something" may work against you a bit because people need more than that to judge the situation.

@elia

@freemo @HarryChenPhD @elia

Let me say that while China is a human rights violator this is nothing compared to the US Empire and what it did for decades and is currently doing to the rest of the world, in addition to their hypocrisy in presenting their selves as defenders of democracy.

Also it's worth noticing that during this virus crisis Italy didn't get any help from other European countries like Germany or France nor from USA. What Europe got from USA now are 30 000 soldiers which officially came for military exercises as if the coronavirus was not here.

On the other hand China sent us in Italy masks with encouraging messages (see image below, it says: "we are with you, come on Italy!").

@post

Strongly disagree. No doubt USA is a human rights violater as with every major power, no arguments, but they dont even come CLOSE to china's violations. Come on are you really going to justify a country that 1) annexes countries and forces them to be part of china 2) forces people into reprogramming facilities against their will for things as simple as their choice of religion.

As for china giving more help to Italy than America, even if thats true, considering thye are the ones who started the Corona virus I would very much hope so! They should be doing a lot more than that.

@HarryChenPhD @elia

@freemo @post @HarryChenPhD China started the coronavirus... I think I read enough...

@elia @HarryChenPhD @post

By that I mean, it originated in a china, as a result of bush meat consumption that was unregulated. They did not use proper measures to contain or prevent the virus.

I did **not** mean that they intentionally engineered or released the virus or any sort of conspiracy nonsense.

@freemo @HarryChenPhD @post ok, they could surely improve hygienic conditions, but I don't know how much that can prevent new viruses from forming. I don't blame that on China. Instead I think they handled the situation really well from the beginning.

@elia @HarryChenPhD @post

It would have been very easy to stop. Most new viruses come from consuming bush meat (meat from wild animals). It is the top reason why bush meat is illegal in much of the world, for this very reason.

If they had either made bush meat ilegal, or at least regulated its consumption to ensure sick animals werent consumed, this could have been easily prevented.

In short the coronavirus is a direct result of their legal policy regarding meat.

@freemo @elia @post I think the root of the problem was that the central government of china tried to cover up the virus instead of dealing with it from the beginning...now, I am not going to cite hundreds of sources on this, just google it...there are many many accredited journalists that reported it

@HarryChenPhD

The origins of coronavirus seem to be a bit more complex because it seems like it originated from a rare contact of wild animals that rarely mix in natural conditions, but are frequently poached and sold on anti-sanitary markets for use in Traditional Chinese Medicine.

nature.com/articles/d41586-020

@freemo @elia @post

@kravietz @freemo @elia @post

I'm sorry, I would have to see proof. Besides, the outbreak happened in Wuhan, hence the name "Wuhan pneumonia". You might be surprised to learn that this virus is a mutation of the original, that mutation happened in Wuhan which only further solidifies the name "Wuhan pneumonia". We aren't going to start deconstructing the name of every virus or only the virus' that the Communist party of China is campaigning to have changed ?

Also, I am well aware of the wet markets and the practices at said markets. I had been shopping at a similar one for more than 20 years.

@HarryChenPhD

Please see the linked Nature article in my comment, based on the following original publication from South China Agricultural University in Guangzhou scau.edu.cn/2020/0207/c1300a21

@freemo @elia @post

@kravietz @freemo @elia @post I'm sorry, I would need to see a publication from a non bias source. That university can't report findings that are not in line with the state agenda...I'm not alone in opinion either, no reputable academic would honour a citation from a chinese university on a politically sensitive matter.

@HarryChenPhD

Well, living in 80's communist Poland and visiting Russia a lot I can understand *that* argument :) On the other hand, if this TCM industry is dominated by party people, why would a state university undermine their business by publishing such news if it wasn't legitimate research?

@freemo @elia

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@kravietz @freemo @elia
The state owns the university...how would that undermine their business? Have you checked the population in China? Also you can google the quality of universities in China...they are a joke, which is why anyone with money has their children educated abroad.

@HarryChenPhD

Shadow economy doesn't like publicity. Any publications about the link between TCM and Covid-19 is damaging for TCM simply because it increases pressure on the Chinese government to enforce its own regulations, ban on poaching etc.

@freemo @elia

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