JonKramer, CIS-HET @JonKramer@qoto.org

@weezmgk @freemo , I was wondering the same, but just the 1989 cycle.

Breaking story: Fox news reporters have reassigned themselves as 'foreign agents' to avoid having to participate in the actors strike.

@gwynnion 85F here, and I am complaining.

@advisorybriefs "Hold my beer"

~Next year

@SNerd Being sued doesn't mean much. I trust the math.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/02/03/25-really-weird-lawsuits-you-wouldnt-believe-were-ever-filed/41083385/

@john yes, or launching from an aircraft. Which cuts down on the size of the rocket itself... Not sure if you would want that answer.

@john , but, very soon, this should be effective:

https://www.spinlaunch.com/

@john https://www.google.com/search?q=ss-520-5+size&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS924US924&oq=SS-520-5&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i512l2j0i30j0i8i30j0i30j0i390i650.5930j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

@SNerd I don't know how to explain the math to you. But the argument you are making is similar to the anti vaxers argument, because they can find someone who died after a vaccine, that means vaccines are misleading, and shouldn't be used.

Auto pilot saves lives. This is just reality. The name, if it means more people use it, saves more lives. Is it 100% effective? No, nothing is. But it is objectively better than no system like it in use. This isn't slightly debatable. It just IS.

If autopilot was mandated on all cars, lives would be saved. 10s of thousands of lives, in the USA alone. Even at what is currently only level two diver assist.

@JStatePost If enough of us have a sincerely held religious belief that MAGAts should be refused service, then that. Otherwise, a general strike is the way.

@SNerd Then the answer is zero. there are roughly 9 people still alive for every one dead. Because they used autopilot. And that number may actually be more, due to the fact that autopilot can make accidents that are unavoidable less deadly.

@SNerd , you literally started this thread with the claim that the system kills people. It literally saves lives when in use. That 'assisting' is better than a human driver.

@freemo I think the major flare is Thursday??

@SNerd , I really think the focus should be on the fact that you are 1/10th as likely to get in an accident with the system. That it makes you measurably safer to use the system. And that the name is irrelevant compared to that 1/10th figure.

@SNerd , maybe it's because I have flown a plane, and know what an aircraft autopilot is. It lightens the workload, and allows the piolets to focus on other things than keeping the plane in it's lane. It won't close the doors, taxi the plane, check for damage, monitor the engines, or take off and land the plane, although there are some systems that can take off and land planes... Calling the tesla system "autopilot" is totally fair and inline with what a plane has.

And it works better than the typical human driver.

I have preordered an electric car, and it will come with a https://www.comma.ai/ system.

@SNerd , so your primary complaint is what it is called? You overlook that you are about 1/10th as likely to get in an accident with 'autopilot' running, which means it is demonstrably safer than a human driver. And not in a small way. You skip over that and your complaint is the name??

I will look at the data, and not care if it is called 'anal sex' or anything else. Call it 'the only way you make it home alive', and I;m fine. Because I have 1/10 the rate of accidents with it on. I want there to be insurance discounts, and possibly government mandates to use it, under ANY name. Because it saves lives. And whatever makes it sell better, I am in favor of.

@SNerd , why do you call it dangerous? What do you think of the other systems in competing car brands?

"0.18 accidents per million miles
New data released in its Impact Report show that Tesla vehicles with Autopilot engaged (mostly highway miles) had just 0.18 accidents per million miles driven, compared to the US vehicle average of 1.53 accidents per million miles.Apr 27, 2023"

https://thedriven.io/2023/04/27/accident-rate-for-tesla-80-lower-than-us-average-with-fsd/#:~:text=New%20data%20released%20in%20its,1.53%20accidents%20per%20million%20miles.

@chameleon_muse on the good side, is I have this weird tomato that is about the size of a medium blueberry that I think is well established. And should reseed itself.

@bruce My 8-ball says the same damn thing! WTF does that even mean???

@theropologist No one got tine for dat.