Chase Oliver winning the #Libertarian Presidential nomination is the best possible outcome for such a trash party. Honestly surprised.
@AlexanderKingsbury @chrishudsonjr Except they don't want most of those things anymore. Not since the Mises takeover. In particular, they're vehemently anti-immigration and anti-LGBTQ.
@AlexanderKingsbury You should see the disgusting anti-trans tweets they keep putting out.
And they removed the plank in that platform calling bigotry repugnant, to give you an idea how they truly feel.
Well, at least you're right about them being "vehemently anti-immigration".
"Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders."
Wait. Hmmm.
Bigotry from MCLP
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
Okay, so we're going to ignore what their platform says, and cherry pick a few examples, most of which aren't even from the party itself? Got it.
@AlexanderKingsbury @chrishudsonjr The post you're replying to has four examples. Of them, two are from the party's own accounts. One is from a Mises Caucus account, with the Mises Caucus being the far-right faction within the party that currently controls it. The last is from a presidential candidate of the party this year.
These aren't cherry-picked examples. This is the message the leadership wants to send.
You can't gaslight someone who has receipts.
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
I replied to A post, yes, but I was hoping you wouldn't need me to address essentially the same reply to every post of yours that was an extension of the same theme; if you do need that, please, let me know, and I'll copy/paste to your satisfaction.
These aren't cherry-picked? So I won't be able to find, say, dozens of examples of the various affiliated groups defending these rights and principles?
@AlexanderKingsbury @chrishudsonjr Oh, I'm sure you could. But they would mostly come from the folks the Mises Caucus is actively trying to push out of the party.
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
So the people who are in the party and who support these rights just don't count for some reason, and everyone who confirms your claims are the REAL representatives of the party?
@AlexanderKingsbury @chrishudsonjr They don't count because they're in the minority and no longer have control of the party. The Mises Caucus even had some of them (delegates even!) thrown out of the convention.
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
"They don't count because they're in the minority and no longer have control of the party. "
It's been a while since I've heard someone claim that minorities don't count.
Sounds like an awful lot of confirmation bias at work here. "The party is the way I say it is, because these examples prove it and the counterexamples don't count!"
@AlexanderKingsbury @chrishudsonjr JFC. I have to spell this out for you?
When people talk about the actions of the party, they're talking about the people in control, not minority dissent factions. So, yes, when criticizing the shitty views of the current trash party, the criticism applies only to the majority in control; the minority of reasonable libertarians who are unable to course correct don't count *in the given context*.
Now, either you're trolling me, or you have the attention span of a goldfish and couldn't maintain the conversational context long enough to avoid hitting me with this egregious straw man. Either way, this conversation is over.
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
Seems like "the people in control" need to read what they're posting on the main website as their platform. Presumably, since they have so much power, they could change it. They're apparently not shy about speaking their mind.
@LouisIngenthron @chrishudsonjr
"In particular, they're vehemently anti-immigration and anti-LGBTQ."
Really?
https://www.lp.org/platform/
"Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration, or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, promote, license, or restrict personal relationships"
Hmmm.