So I guess the only valid alternative is communism as capitalism is what has delivered us to this state of crisis
I would define socialism as a form of communism. I would dispute the premise that communism has ever been tried and failed, although I acknowledge that a lot of things that have been called 'communism', have been tried and have largely failed!
@Paulos_the_fog @aral @dbattistella
I think that’s backwards. I could accept that communism is a form of socialism, albeit an extreme and dysfunctional one. And the ‘no true Scotsman’ argument to defend communism is weak. The evidence so far is that ‘pure’ communism cannot exist, thanks to human nature.
@KimSJ @Paulos_the_fog @aral @dbattistella
Ironically some of what most people would consider conservative religious sects might come closest.
@KimSJ @Paulos_the_fog @aral @dbattistella
"the ‘no true Scotsman’ argument to defend communism is weak. The evidence so far is that ‘pure’ communism cannot exist, thanks to human nature."
@Greengordon @KimSJ @aral @dbattistella
What induces you to think I give a shit what you think?
@Greengordon @KimSJ @aral @dbattistella
...and capitalism destroys civilized society due to untrammeled greed.
...and religion destroys civilized society due to bigoted extremism.
`Where to now?
@Paulos_the_fog @aral @dbattistella What’s wrong with offering socialism as the alternative? Why do you need to raise the spectre of another proven-failed ideology?