@freemo this is why it saddens me when I see people jump to calling people who disagree with them evil in some way, which shuts down engagement from both sides
- if "we" see "them" as "evil," then it makes sense to not listen to them... because they're evil, and we shouldn't listen to evil, because we're good. And because they see themselves as good, they'll be more likely to disengage with us, because they know they're "good", and us calling them evil is then likely to earn an evil label in return.
I think that at a basic/fundamental level, people share goals, and each person is doing the best they know how. If we can identify the common goal, maybe we can have a conversation.