@peterdrake A sad day indeed when Colorado cedes it's electoral college votes to California.

@SecondJon California? It's ceding them to the popular vote (but only once enough states are on board so that no state is giving up their voice unilaterally).

@peterdrake at least we can find common ground in recognizing that this is about states giving up their voices.

@SecondJon It's about making every PERSON'S voice equal, regardless of what state they're in.

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@peterdrake I'm pretty sure it's about If you can't win, change the rules.

@SecondJon It's about fixing a system that elects a candidate when more people preferred a different one. Do you really think that's acceptable?

@peterdrake One major problem is that no one has asked the people. The Left will continue to destroy the checks and balances of the system in any way (and only on ways) that they believe will fix the entire system to give them more power.

The US was not founded to run by majority rule. There were reasons that don't disappear because "more people preferred a different one."

But on this subject about what the majority prefer, the leftists seem to not care what the people prefer, as we're not able to vote on the issue. It's decided on by a small number of dems in lockstep in secret and behind closed doors (at least as I understand how the governor of Boulder signed the bill into law here in Colorado).

So whatever this is, it's not about the will of the people, or they'd let the people vote on it.

If the dems could get a system where really only the counties around LA, Chicago, and New York mattered, of course they'd go for it. I don't think this goes any deeper than that. I think it's just a power grab by dismantling one of our checks and balances so it's imbalanced in their favor.

@SecondJon What criteria would you propose other than the winner of an election where every vote is counted equally? What ideal is supported by weighting some votes more heavily than others?

Polls consistently show that the people DO prefer a popular election -- by a wide margin.

The thought that "only the counties around LA, Chicago, and New York" would matter under a popular vote is demonstrably false:

youtube.com/watch?v=_gbwv5hf2P

@peterdrake Polls don't equal voting. Nonetheless, I'm a fan of checks and balances, not a fan of dismantaling them for a perceived power advantage of one side.

@SecondJon I'm going to ask the main question again:

Selecting a President is a single decision. What criteria would you propose other than the winner of an election where every vote is counted equally? What ideal is supported by weighting some votes more heavily than others?

@peterdrake "What ideal is supported...?"
I suppose that's why people are in favor of NPV - they don't know why the current system was set up or what the advantage is.

While I think you're just trolling, not really interested in conversation on the topic, I looked and found some good information for you. I'm not going to go into everything, because social media isn't usually the right place for legitimate in depth discussions, but here's one:

There is a concept called The Tyranny of the Majority. This wikipedia article has some more information about this and some info on why the electoral college was set up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_

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