@meowski @11112011 @moonshine@freespeechextremist.com @p @sadladpress@freespeechextremist.com @BarefootWitch@spinster.xyz @Lennart@spinster.xyz @georgia@spinster.xyz

What about diabetes type 1, my dude?

You know, the people born with the disease?

@Surasanji @11112011 @moonshine @p @sadladpress @BarefootWitch @Lennart @georgia
Don't be obtuse. Those people benefit from medication. That's a real disease that has a known medical cure. Psychiatry doesn't cure mental illness.

@meowski @11112011 @moonshine@freespeechextremist.com @p @sadladpress@freespeechextremist.com @BarefootWitch@spinster.xyz @Lennart@spinster.xyz @georgia@spinster.xyz

No, there is no cure for it. Just like Diabetes 1.

@meowski @11112011 @moonshine@freespeechextremist.com @p @sadladpress@freespeechextremist.com @BarefootWitch@spinster.xyz @Lennart@spinster.xyz @georgia@spinster.xyz

The shit you're saying to do is what people do in therapy. You learn coping mechanisms, how to recognize your brain is fucking you again, how to recognize when you are in a bad way.

And when to ask for help.

My brain can't heal itself, my dude. It's chemically fucked, and I was born that way- just like someone with any other genetic disorder is born that way. It's just luck of the draw.

The medicine helps correct the imbalances in my brain- it helps me be able to control my disease and not be controlled by it.

And we're not talking about behavior- Behavior is a learned thing.

We're talking about stuff you can't help here- physical anomalies in the brain. I can wish to change it- but there's no way to do it, same as if I were born with Lupus, or Crohns, or Diabetes. I can take meds and make lifestyle changes to HELP with the issues- but there's no cure for this.

@Surasanji @11112011 @moonshine @p @sadladpress @BarefootWitch @Lennart @georgia

Oh, did you have some chemical diagnostic test to indicate that you have some neurochemical imbalance in the brain?

No, you're just repeating what some drug dealing shrink inferred based on self-reported behavior.

Get a chemical diagnostic lab test that proves you have some so-called chemical imbalance then we'll talk., Until then you're just a pill junkie as far as I'm concerned

@meowski @Surasanji @11112011 @BarefootWitch @Lennart @georgia @moonshine @sadladpress Actually a thing I've been wondering about. It's gotta be really hard to get past the blood-brain barrier to actually do this kind of test, right? Or could you actually do it with an LP?

I knew a girl whose night job in school was executing mice in the lab. Depending on the type of test, you had to do things different ways. Like you couldn't break their necks if you wanted to check brain chemistry, so she says they'd put them in a little chamber and suck all the air out of it.

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In humans it's a blood or urine test, I think.

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There really isn't a way to make it super accurate, though.

We just don't know enough, yet, to do anything like that safely.

@Surasanji @11112011 @meowski @moonshine @sadladpress @BarefootWitch @Lennart @georgia For diabetes, yeah, but for things that we expect are brain chemistry issues, metabolic pathways and molecule shapes are pretty tricky. I'm not saying there's no way to know anything just because there are a lot of mysteries, but I am saying that psychiatry is fairly new as far as science goes, and I expect plenty of surprises within our lifetimes.

Like modafinil. It's not addictive, it's not a typical CNS, and we're really not sure how it works, but you don't have to sleep and you don't get a buzz. Why? Not that certain. What don't we know and what implications might that have for other chemicals?

@meowski @Surasanji @11112011 @BarefootWitch @Lennart @georgia @moonshine @sadladpress Dude, me grandpa told me almost 25 years ago after his quadruple bypass and his second heart attack he figured he had another 5 or 10 years, right? Said he'd only get an extra year or two if he tried to get healthy, and he'd rather enjoy five years than hate six years. So he started just eating pie and candy, totally gave up on dieting, and just stayed on the insulin, gained another 50lbs. Dude's in his mid-80s now, sharp as he ever was. Sometimes just being content with life is better for your health than anything else you can do, cortisol's a pretty rough thing.