Ben Taylor @VoxDei@qoto.org

@futurebird I like this. How do I attribute it if I want to pass it on elsewhere?

@antlerboy No problem all, I still definitely should have considered that that might have come from somewhere personal! I'm glad your Dad is OK - I know from experience that leaving hospitalised elderly people overnight without liquids can have consequences.

There are definitely a variety of problems with the system, I'm far from saying it's perfect! It's just that DNRs in particular are often misunderstood. It's an emotive topic.

@antlerboy I apologise, I should have considered that your post might have been triggered by personal circumstances. You post so many wide-ranging things, I thought you'd just read something. Sincere apologies and whatever the situation is I'm sorry about that too. I hope things turn out as well as they can.

@garius Probably just as well. Considering his track record with the pledges he did make, perhaps it's one of those things where you're safer if they're not aiming at it.

@nilikm I am fortunate enough not to receive this kind of crap. I am a cis-het white man without a platform or position of authority, I don't have to live with this, even though my views align with yours. I don't know you, I don't even live on the same continent, but know that most of us are on your side, even if we can't help with the crazies. Thank you for what you do, nobody should have to live with this sort of rubbish.

@MWGNZ Tusky: Big black rectangle. But not 4k high and not 1px wide.

@Richard_Littler Oh my God. He's Mike TV. How did I not see that before!

@antlerboy My wife is a doctor, and she spent time during her GP specialist trainiing working in an A&E department. DNR notices are often misunderstood. So is CPR, which is not the Hollywood push-on-their-chest-a-few-times-and-they-wake-up-fine-with-a-gasp that we see on TV.

Let's be clear here. CPR is horrific. It is a massive bodily invasion involving broken ribs, physical trauma, an utter lack of dignity and while if successful it might leave you alive, it might also leave you a vegetable if your brain was starved of oxygen for too long. If performed on your frail ninety-eight year old grandmother with dementia it might truly be a fate worse than death. Possibly followed not that long after (and yet much, much too long after) by actual death as a result of the trauma.

Doctors aren't going to give you a DNR because they can't be bothered. They're going to do it because they believe CPR in your case is wrong. In the vast majority of cases they're not going to make the decision to complete one, either you or your next of kin will.

The NHS struggles to find the language to explain it, but they exist and have the policies around them they do for a good reason, and that reason isn't that the doctors caring for you can't be bothered.

Helpful. My long-standing NHS dentist (Moor Dental in Ashburton, Devon) has been bought out and is going fully private and deregistering all their NHS patients. Thanks for that. To add insult to injury, if I type "find an nhs dentist" into the search bar in Firefox, it pretends I haven't typed anything.

(Yes, I know restarting my browser will probably fix it. But I don't want to close my browser and anyway, it still feels like the world is trying to tell me something...)

#nhs #nhsdentistry #ukdentists

@garius https://xkcd.com/386