> But if you actually listen to the people who've stayed behind, you'll learn that the main reason our friends stay on legacy platforms is that they care about the other people there more than they hate Zuck or Musk.
Never have i ever heard something that made me think "more hate would be a good thing". Until now.
Caring less about others is not an option, hate it is.
@admitsWrongIfProven @pluralistic
Not saying that's the choice everybody SHOULD make, but imo it's at least as good as hating the ppl who are frustrating you by not picking up stakes themselves.
When the house you're in sucks, moving is often a solid option.
I'm not sure it's an inherently BETTER option, at least not all of the time, than renovations.
That some houses are more worth renovating than others is ofc stipulated.
@sarah_geri @pluralistic Oh, i would never recommend hating people that just live in a house, or are on facebook. The hate comment was meant for the people that profit off of this, zuck and such.
@sarah_geri @pluralistic I'm sorry, i don't understand the abbreviations YMMV and ABD.
So maybe what i take from this is wrong, but before this conversation ends due to slow responses: If i understand correctly, you say one needs to address problems where people are... but if they are on facebook or the like, that means speech is severely limited by the censorship there. If i got right what you mean, i don't understand how it would be possible to help people if one can't speak freely.
@admitsWrongIfProven @pluralistic people misunderstand hate. We need to hate that which causes great harm. No one blinks when someone says "I hate cancer", or "I hate wildfires", or "I hate that there are people going hungry", but the moment you say you hate the systems, institutions and persons that cause or exacerbate those issues, the pearl-clutching begins.
I think this vilification of hate was an intentional culture shift to make people more passive.
@WALFTEAM But they are... assets that have paid off and are milked for profits now. Meanwhile the fediverse is providing some, shaky but helpful, use in the current situation.
I see the definition of legacy met, what is yours?
@admitsWrongIfProven @pluralistic
This take cuts a little. Alt. perspective, YMMV:
I grew up v. poor in North Alabama (tail end of Appalachians).
In my 20s I moved around the country collecting graduate degrees.
I came back here when I went ABD.
Ppl ask me sometimes why I don't leave.
Lots of reasons, including "ppl I love are here," but a big one = If you want to help, you have to go where the trouble is.
Unless it's already at home.
In which case ... you can stay & slug it out.